From lojban-out@lojban.org Tue Apr 22 09:25:01 2003 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_6_5); 22 Apr 2003 16:25:01 -0000 Received: (qmail 10763 invoked from network); 22 Apr 2003 16:25:00 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 22 Apr 2003 16:25:00 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO digitalkingdom.org) (204.152.186.175) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 22 Apr 2003 16:25:00 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.12) id 1980Zo-00065q-00 for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 09:25:00 -0700 Received: from digitalkingdom.org ([204.152.186.175] helo=chain) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1980Zf-00065X-00; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 09:24:51 -0700 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Tue, 22 Apr 2003 09:24:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from postman.arcor-online.net ([151.189.0.87]) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1980ZY-00065O-00 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 09:24:44 -0700 Received: from hamwpne1 (pc1-oxfd1-5-cust27.oxfd.cable.ntl.com [62.254.134.27]) (authenticated bits=0) by postman.arcor-online.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h3MGOeps028845 for ; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 18:24:41 +0200 (CEST) Organization: datenrevision GmbH & Co. OHG To: lojban-list@lojban.org Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 18:24:24 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [lojban] Re: mi'e Message-ID: <3EA588D8.29915.1B8B1B1@localhost> Priority: normal In-reply-to: <20030422152819.55400.qmail@web20510.mail.yahoo.com> References: <3EA5293F.7354.434169@localhost> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.02a) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by Ecartis Content-description: Mail message body X-archive-position: 4889 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: pnewton@gmx.de Precedence: bulk X-list: lojban-list X-eGroups-From: "Philip Newton" From: "Philip Newton" Reply-To: pnewton@gmx.de X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790 X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out On 22 Apr 2003 at 8:28, Llambías wrote: > i ie lu snanu zei gugdrtcosena li'u ja'a lujvo i ku'i mi > mutce zmanei zo nantcoso .i ku'i zoi zoi nantcoso zoi na lojbo valsi ki'u le nu no lojbo valsi cu se nenri ny. ce'o ty. ce'o cy. ni'o do zmanei zo bertcoso .i ku'i bo cumki fa le nu finti lo lujvo fo lo fu'ivla .i .y. .y. My Lojban fails me, but what I'm trying to say is that while you are free to prefer words of the form "nanytcoso", you cannot give as a reason for the preference that it is not possible to form lujvo from fu'ivla and that therefore, cultural gismu are required in order to form convenient lujvo. mu'o mi'e .filip. -- filip.niutyn.