From jjllambias2000@yahoo.com.ar Tue Apr 22 17:50:44 2003 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_6_5); 23 Apr 2003 00:50:44 -0000 Received: (qmail 2217 invoked from network); 23 Apr 2003 00:50:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 23 Apr 2003 00:50:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO digitalkingdom.org) (204.152.186.175) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 23 Apr 2003 00:50:44 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.12) id 1988TE-0002im-00 for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 17:50:44 -0700 Received: from digitalkingdom.org ([204.152.186.175] helo=chain) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1988T6-0002iN-00; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 17:50:36 -0700 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Tue, 22 Apr 2003 17:50:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from web20512.mail.yahoo.com ([216.136.175.20]) by digitalkingdom.org with smtp (Exim 4.12) id 1988Sa-0002iD-00 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 17:50:04 -0700 Message-ID: <20030423005003.15935.qmail@web20512.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [200.69.2.52] by web20512.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 17:50:03 PDT Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 17:50:03 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [lojban] Re: mi'e To: lojban-list@lojban.org In-Reply-To: <20030423000907.GA46531@allusion.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-archive-position: 4893 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: jjllambias2000@yahoo.com.ar Precedence: bulk X-list: lojban-list From: Jorge "Llambías" Reply-To: jjllambias2000@yahoo.com.ar X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=142311107 X-Yahoo-Profile: jjllambias2000 la djorden cusku di'e > Why are they kludgey? "zei" is a single syllable. But each component keeps its own stress. I can't help hearing them like separate words. > I think the reason you (and others) think it is kludgey is because > there are spaces in the spelling of lujvo with zei. Think of "zei" > like you think of the "y" or "r" or whatnot you add to other lujvo > (bacrynandu, ma'argaltu), and it doesn't seem at all kludgey. Well, I do think y and r glue are kludgey too, just somewhat less so than {zei}. If {zei} wasn't kludgy we would only use zei-lujvo, since they are so much more clear. Why do we prefer {bacrynandu} to {bacru zei nandu}? mu'o mi'e xorxes __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo http://search.yahoo.com