From xod@thestonecutters.net Wed Apr 23 20:30:12 2003 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_6_6); 24 Apr 2003 03:30:12 -0000 Received: (qmail 70231 invoked from network); 24 Apr 2003 03:30:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m6.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 24 Apr 2003 03:30:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO digitalkingdom.org) (204.152.186.175) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 24 Apr 2003 03:30:12 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.12) id 198XR6-00037l-00 for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Wed, 23 Apr 2003 20:30:12 -0700 Received: from digitalkingdom.org ([204.152.186.175] helo=chain) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 198XR0-00037R-00; Wed, 23 Apr 2003 20:30:06 -0700 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Wed, 23 Apr 2003 20:30:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [66.111.194.10] (helo=granite.thestonecutters.net) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 198XQq-00036r-00 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Wed, 23 Apr 2003 20:29:56 -0700 Received: from granite.thestonecutters.net (localhost.thestonecutters.net [127.0.0.1]) by granite.thestonecutters.net (8.12.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h3O3U6AN018525 for ; Wed, 23 Apr 2003 23:30:06 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from xod@thestonecutters.net) Received: from localhost (xod@localhost) by granite.thestonecutters.net (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) with ESMTP id h3O3U6lg018522 for ; Wed, 23 Apr 2003 23:30:06 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from xod@thestonecutters.net) X-Authentication-Warning: granite.thestonecutters.net: xod owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2003 23:30:06 -0400 (EDT) To: lojban-list@lojban.org Subject: [lojban] Re: [OT] God Syndrome (OR: The why of 'why') In-Reply-To: <20030424021045.27298.qmail@web10905.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20030423231430.M17896-100000@granite.thestonecutters.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-archive-position: 4927 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: xod@thestonecutters.net Precedence: bulk X-list: lojban-list From: Invent Yourself Reply-To: xod@thestonecutters.net X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=110189215 X-Yahoo-Profile: throwing_back_the_apple On Wed, 23 Apr 2003, Jon MacLeod wrote: > "Why does Mark feel the urge to punch a locker door when he's angry?" > > Is that recursive 'z' thing. Closer to the 'why does x do y for reason z' is > "What causes Mark to feel an urge to punch a locker door because he's angry?" > although that's not exactly what I mean and can be interpreted rather too > easily as an iteration of z. If you don't interpret "why" as "what causes", then what are you interpreting it as? Any the four (mukti, nibli, rinka, krinu}? -- In an opinion poll conducted in early March by Zogby, 97% of Saudis said they had an unfavorable opinion of the US. "I think that underestimates it," said Awardh Badhi, a political scientist with the Faisal Center for Research and Islamic Studies.