From lojbab@lojban.org Wed Apr 30 09:44:00 2003 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_6_6); 30 Apr 2003 16:44:00 -0000 Received: (qmail 92449 invoked from network); 30 Apr 2003 16:43:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m6.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 30 Apr 2003 16:43:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO digitalkingdom.org) (204.152.186.175) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 30 Apr 2003 16:43:58 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.12) id 19AugY-0006ZM-00 for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Wed, 30 Apr 2003 09:43:58 -0700 Received: from digitalkingdom.org ([204.152.186.175] helo=chain) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19Aufy-0006Yz-00; Wed, 30 Apr 2003 09:43:23 -0700 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Wed, 30 Apr 2003 09:43:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lakemtao01.cox.net ([68.1.17.244]) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19Aufk-0006Ye-00 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Wed, 30 Apr 2003 09:43:08 -0700 Received: from lojban.lojban.org ([68.100.92.1]) by lakemtao01.cox.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.05 201-253-122-122-105-20011231) with ESMTP id <20030430164237.ETBV8337.lakemtao01.cox.net@lojban.lojban.org> for ; Wed, 30 Apr 2003 12:42:37 -0400 Message-Id: <5.2.0.9.0.20030430124004.0375cec0@pop.east.cox.net> X-Sender: rlechevalier@pop.east.cox.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.0.9 Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2003 12:42:26 -0400 To: lojban-list@lojban.org Subject: [lojban] Re: BPFK phpbb In-Reply-To: References: <20030430135144.1503.qmail@web20506.mail.yahoo.com> <20030430135144.1503.qmail@web20506.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by Ecartis X-archive-position: 5058 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: lojbab@lojban.org Precedence: bulk X-list: lojban-list From: Robert LeChevalier Reply-To: lojbab@lojban.org X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=1120595 X-Yahoo-Profile: lojbab At 09:34 AM 4/30/03 -0500, Adam D. Lopresto wrote: >On Wed, 30 Apr 2003, Jorge Llambías wrote: > > la djan cusku di'e > > > > > mi senpi lo du'u dokau klama le zarci > > > I am doubtful whether you went to the store. > > > > Which can also be: > > > > mi senpi lo du'u doxukau klama le zarci > > > > In general, when {kau} does not follow a question word it is > > a shorthand for {xukau}. > >Hmmm, I'd take { mi senpi lo du'u dokau klama le zarci } to mean "I am >doubtful >that it was you (as opposed to someone else) who went to the store", different >from {doxukau} (whether or not it was you). Am I misinterpretting? I stand corrected in my response to bancu. I think you are correct about the "as opposed to", and my examples need to be modified in their translation. Of course, someone can go back to the last couple of JL issues on the web page, and look at the examples from when kau was introduced, and then we'd be sure. lojbab -- lojbab lojbab@lojban.org Bob LeChevalier, President, The Logical Language Group, Inc. 2904 Beau Lane, Fairfax VA 22031-1303 USA 703-385-0273 Artificial language Loglan/Lojban: http://www.lojban.org