From lojban-out@lojban.org Wed Apr 30 11:11:52 2003 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_6_6); 30 Apr 2003 18:11:52 -0000 Received: (qmail 4553 invoked from network); 30 Apr 2003 18:11:51 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m8.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 30 Apr 2003 18:11:51 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO digitalkingdom.org) (204.152.186.175) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 30 Apr 2003 18:11:51 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.12) id 19Aw3a-0001WU-00 for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Wed, 30 Apr 2003 11:11:50 -0700 Received: from digitalkingdom.org ([204.152.186.175] helo=chain) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19Aw3L-0001VV-00; Wed, 30 Apr 2003 11:11:35 -0700 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Wed, 30 Apr 2003 11:11:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pacific-carrier-annex.mit.edu ([18.7.21.83]) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19Aw2s-0001U0-00 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Wed, 30 Apr 2003 11:11:06 -0700 Received: from grand-central-station.mit.edu (GRAND-CENTRAL-STATION.MIT.EDU [18.7.21.82]) by pacific-carrier-annex.mit.edu (8.12.4/8.9.2) with ESMTP id h3UIB3mK007600 for ; Wed, 30 Apr 2003 14:11:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from melbourne-city-street.mit.edu (MELBOURNE-CITY-STREET.MIT.EDU [18.7.21.86]) by grand-central-station.mit.edu (8.12.4/8.9.2) with ESMTP id h3UIAA6o024857 for ; Wed, 30 Apr 2003 14:11:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from torg.mit.edu (TORG.MIT.EDU [18.243.1.228]) ) by melbourne-city-street.mit.edu (8.12.4/8.12.4) with ESMTP id h3UI8pU8023131 for ; Wed, 30 Apr 2003 14:08:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rob by torg.mit.edu with local (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 19Aw0a-0001cF-00 for ; Wed, 30 Apr 2003 14:08:44 -0400 Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2003 14:08:44 -0400 To: lojban-list@lojban.org Subject: [lojban] Re: Lujvo frequency list Message-ID: <20030430180844.GA6200@mit.edu> Mail-Followup-To: lojban-list@lojban.org References: <20030430024227.GA13634@mit.edu> <20030430164114.GT20953@digitalkingdom.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030430164114.GT20953@digitalkingdom.org> X-Is-It-Not-Nifty: www.sluggy.com User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.3i X-archive-position: 5061 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: rspeer@MIT.EDU Precedence: bulk X-list: lojban-list X-eGroups-From: Rob Speer From: Rob Speer Reply-To: rspeer@MIT.EDU X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790 X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out On Wed, Apr 30, 2003 at 09:41:15AM -0700, Robin Lee Powell wrote: > That's odd, since I for one consistently use djisku, on the grounds > that the appropriate tanru is djica cusku, as in "xu do djica cusku > lu mi na klama li'u". For the tanru, you want the base word to be {djica}, because "want to say" is a type of want more than it is an act of saying. But you want the place structure of cusku. As a tanru it would best be {cusku co djica}; as a lujvo, the place structure falls nicely into place for {skudji}. The fully expanded version is of course {djica le nu cusku}, but generally {djica le nu broda} gets tanru-ized as {broda djica}. -- mu'o mi'e rab.spir