From xod@thestonecutters.net Wed Apr 30 12:42:00 2003 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_6_6); 30 Apr 2003 19:42:00 -0000 Received: (qmail 38624 invoked from network); 30 Apr 2003 19:41:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m14.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 30 Apr 2003 19:41:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO digitalkingdom.org) (204.152.186.175) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 30 Apr 2003 19:41:59 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.12) id 19AxSp-0003yT-00 for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Wed, 30 Apr 2003 12:41:59 -0700 Received: from digitalkingdom.org ([204.152.186.175] helo=chain) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19AxSd-0003y7-00; Wed, 30 Apr 2003 12:41:47 -0700 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Wed, 30 Apr 2003 12:41:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [66.111.194.10] (helo=granite.thestonecutters.net) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19AxSK-0003xY-00 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Wed, 30 Apr 2003 12:41:28 -0700 Received: from granite.thestonecutters.net (localhost.thestonecutters.net [127.0.0.1]) by granite.thestonecutters.net (8.12.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h3UJfWAN095487 for ; Wed, 30 Apr 2003 15:41:32 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from xod@thestonecutters.net) Received: from localhost (xod@localhost) by granite.thestonecutters.net (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) with ESMTP id h3UJfWaE095484 for ; Wed, 30 Apr 2003 15:41:32 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from xod@thestonecutters.net) X-Authentication-Warning: granite.thestonecutters.net: xod owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2003 15:41:32 -0400 (EDT) To: lojban-list@lojban.org Subject: [lojban] Re: Lujvo frequency list In-Reply-To: <20030430192741.82960.qmail@web20511.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20030430153247.L85912-100000@granite.thestonecutters.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=X-UNKNOWN Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by Ecartis X-archive-position: 5064 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: xod@thestonecutters.net Precedence: bulk X-list: lojban-list From: Invent Yourself Reply-To: xod@thestonecutters.net X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=110189215 X-Yahoo-Profile: throwing_back_the_apple On Wed, 30 Apr 2003, Jorge Llambías wrote: > > la camgusmis cusku di'e > > > > skudji (mean to say, from IRC) - 41 > > > > That's odd, since I for one consistently use djisku, on the grounds > > that the appropriate tanru is djica cusku, as in "xu do djica cusku > > lu mi na klama li'u". > > {djica cusku} is closer to "willingly say". > > If {do pu djica cusku lu mi na klama li'u}, is it true that > {do pu cusku lu mi na klama li'u}? Is {djica cusku} a type of {cusku}? > Because usually {skudji} is used with something meant to be said but > not actually said. It comes from {x1 djica le nu [da'i] x1 cusku x2}, > it does not claim x1 cusku x2. > > Of course, {djisku} need not claim {cusku} either, it's a new word, > but I would not call {djica cusku} the appropriate tanru. pe'i zo basti zmadu zo djica le ka srana .i le si'o djica .ai le mu'e ba cusku kei ka'e smuni lu djica le nu cusku li'u .i ku'i zo skudji srana le si'o djica .uonai le za'i da poi ca selsku cu basti de poi pu selsku -- Neoconservatism in the realm of foreign policy is merely Trotskyism-turned-inside-out: a militant internationalism fueled by U.S. taxpayer dollars and backed up by the mightiest military the world has ever seen.