From lojban-out@lojban.org Mon May 05 23:59:58 2003 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_6_6); 6 May 2003 06:59:57 -0000 Received: (qmail 56729 invoked from network); 6 May 2003 06:59:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m7.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 6 May 2003 06:59:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO digitalkingdom.org) (204.152.186.175) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 6 May 2003 06:59:57 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.12) id 19CwQf-0005ct-00 for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Mon, 05 May 2003 23:59:57 -0700 Received: from digitalkingdom.org ([204.152.186.175] helo=chain) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19CwQW-0005ca-00; Mon, 05 May 2003 23:59:48 -0700 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Mon, 05 May 2003 23:59:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from as5-4-7.an.g.bonet.se ([194.236.113.102] helo=norpan.org ident=[pB20kCyBj6W/8NJyOL7/bQvnCnXveee0]) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19CwQG-0005cJ-00 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Mon, 05 May 2003 23:59:32 -0700 Received: by norpan.org (Postfix, from userid 500) id C73638AACE; Tue, 6 May 2003 08:59:30 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [lojban] Re: Mongolian-based Lojban orthography To: lojban-list@lojban.org In-Reply-To: <20030505160352.GB68381@allusion.net> References: <20030505105143.C46975-100000@granite.thestonecutters.net> <20030505160352.GB68381@allusion.net> Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <1052204369.20497.36.camel@norpan.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.3.2 (Preview Release) Date: 06 May 2003 08:59:29 +0200 X-archive-position: 5148 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: d95mback@dtek.chalmers.se Precedence: bulk X-list: lojban-list X-eGroups-From: Martin =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Norb=E4ck?= From: Martin =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Norb=E4ck?= Reply-To: d95mback@dtek.chalmers.se X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790 X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out li 18 pi'e 23 fi li 5 pi'e 5 pi'e 2003 tcika lenu la djorden ciska di'e > Actually evidence is to the contrary. > > Unless you have an LCD screen, looking at a white background is > tougher on the eyes ("staring at a lightbulb"). I would like to see that evidence. I find black text on a light background (not necessarily white) to be much more readable. It also allows me to reduce the brightness setting on my monitor on late nights and still be able to read. This is true both on crt and lcd screens, more so on lcd screens though. Ok, so this is a special case, since there is an image involved, but normally I'd say, don't use any particular foreground/background color unless you have a very good reason to do so. This allows the user to set the defaults in his browser to his own liking. The same goes for font and font size of course. mu'o mi'e norpan From lojban-out@lojban.org Mon May 05 23:59:58 2003 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_6_6); 6 May 2003 06:59:57 -0000 Received: (qmail 56729 invoked from network); 6 May 2003 06:59:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m7.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 6 May 2003 06:59:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO digitalkingdom.org) (204.152.186.175) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 6 May 2003 06:59:57 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.12) id 19CwQf-0005ct-00 for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Mon, 05 May 2003 23:59:57 -0700 Received: from digitalkingdom.org ([204.152.186.175] helo=chain) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19CwQW-0005ca-00; Mon, 05 May 2003 23:59:48 -0700 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Mon, 05 May 2003 23:59:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from as5-4-7.an.g.bonet.se ([194.236.113.102] helo=norpan.org ident=[pB20kCyBj6W/8NJyOL7/bQvnCnXveee0]) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19CwQG-0005cJ-00 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Mon, 05 May 2003 23:59:32 -0700 Received: by norpan.org (Postfix, from userid 500) id C73638AACE; Tue, 6 May 2003 08:59:30 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [lojban] Re: Mongolian-based Lojban orthography To: lojban-list@lojban.org In-Reply-To: <20030505160352.GB68381@allusion.net> References: <20030505105143.C46975-100000@granite.thestonecutters.net> <20030505160352.GB68381@allusion.net> Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <1052204369.20497.36.camel@norpan.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.3.2 (Preview Release) Date: 06 May 2003 08:59:29 +0200 X-archive-position: 5148 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: d95mback@dtek.chalmers.se Precedence: bulk X-list: lojban-list X-eGroups-From: Martin =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Norb=E4ck?= From: Martin =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Norb=E4ck?= Reply-To: d95mback@dtek.chalmers.se X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790 X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out li 18 pi'e 23 fi li 5 pi'e 5 pi'e 2003 tcika lenu la djorden ciska di'e > Actually evidence is to the contrary. > > Unless you have an LCD screen, looking at a white background is > tougher on the eyes ("staring at a lightbulb"). I would like to see that evidence. I find black text on a light background (not necessarily white) to be much more readable. It also allows me to reduce the brightness setting on my monitor on late nights and still be able to read. This is true both on crt and lcd screens, more so on lcd screens though. Ok, so this is a special case, since there is an image involved, but normally I'd say, don't use any particular foreground/background color unless you have a very good reason to do so. This allows the user to set the defaults in his browser to his own liking. The same goes for font and font size of course. mu'o mi'e norpan