From OneOfThree@gmx.net Tue May 06 02:56:51 2003 Return-Path: X-Sender: OneOfThree@gmx.net X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_6_6); 6 May 2003 09:56:51 -0000 Received: (qmail 91860 invoked from network); 6 May 2003 09:56:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m14.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 6 May 2003 09:56:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.gmx.net) (213.165.64.20) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 6 May 2003 09:56:50 -0000 Received: (qmail 26021 invoked by uid 65534); 6 May 2003 09:56:48 -0000 Received: from B9db0.pppool.de (HELO oneof) (213.7.157.176) by mail.gmx.net (mp018-rz3) with SMTP; 06 May 2003 11:56:48 +0200 Message-ID: <001b01c313ae$9a9e2ac0$b09d07d5@oneof> To: References: <1052145533.324.75200.m12@yahoogroups.com> Subject: Re: xumtau Date: Tue, 6 May 2003 11:04:46 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 From: "Stefan \"1of3\" Koch" X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=39088451 X-Yahoo-Profile: oneofthree2 coi Oskar wrote: > But while we are on the subject; I wonder if there is a way to name > atoms by their atomic number. If one could make a lujvo for 'charged- > particle', and then attach numbers to it to signify how many (since > in principle it is the # of protons/electrons that differenciates > atoms) you could have words for hydrogen and gold, and still have > room for elements yet to be discovered. "Charged particle" would be "dicka'u". But IMO that's not really what you want. The best think would be something with the structure: "x1 is a quantity of the chemical element with nuclear charge x2 [li]" A possible lujvo would be {xumcmirlai}. (I hope I formed the lujvo correctly. What I wanted to say is {xukmi (se) cmima klani}. Of course the place structure does not follow the rules but I don't think there is a better possiblity if you want to use a lujvo. IMO would be the best possibilty to make up a gismu with the structure since "chemical element" is a quite fundamental concept in our modern world. mu'omi'e ctefan. From OneOfThree@gmx.net Tue May 06 02:56:51 2003 Return-Path: X-Sender: OneOfThree@gmx.net X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_6_6); 6 May 2003 09:56:51 -0000 Received: (qmail 91860 invoked from network); 6 May 2003 09:56:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m14.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 6 May 2003 09:56:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.gmx.net) (213.165.64.20) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 6 May 2003 09:56:50 -0000 Received: (qmail 26021 invoked by uid 65534); 6 May 2003 09:56:48 -0000 Received: from B9db0.pppool.de (HELO oneof) (213.7.157.176) by mail.gmx.net (mp018-rz3) with SMTP; 06 May 2003 11:56:48 +0200 Message-ID: <001b01c313ae$9a9e2ac0$b09d07d5@oneof> To: References: <1052145533.324.75200.m12@yahoogroups.com> Subject: Re: xumtau Date: Tue, 6 May 2003 11:04:46 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 From: "Stefan \"1of3\" Koch" X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=39088451 X-Yahoo-Profile: oneofthree2 coi Oskar wrote: > But while we are on the subject; I wonder if there is a way to name > atoms by their atomic number. If one could make a lujvo for 'charged- > particle', and then attach numbers to it to signify how many (since > in principle it is the # of protons/electrons that differenciates > atoms) you could have words for hydrogen and gold, and still have > room for elements yet to be discovered. "Charged particle" would be "dicka'u". But IMO that's not really what you want. The best think would be something with the structure: "x1 is a quantity of the chemical element with nuclear charge x2 [li]" A possible lujvo would be {xumcmirlai}. (I hope I formed the lujvo correctly. What I wanted to say is {xukmi (se) cmima klani}. Of course the place structure does not follow the rules but I don't think there is a better possiblity if you want to use a lujvo. IMO would be the best possibilty to make up a gismu with the structure since "chemical element" is a quite fundamental concept in our modern world. mu'omi'e ctefan.