From lojban-out@lojban.org Tue May 06 04:39:33 2003 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_6_6); 6 May 2003 11:39:33 -0000 Received: (qmail 47444 invoked from network); 6 May 2003 11:39:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m11.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 6 May 2003 11:39:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO digitalkingdom.org) (204.152.186.175) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 6 May 2003 11:39:32 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.12) id 19D0nE-0007IK-00 for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Tue, 06 May 2003 04:39:32 -0700 Received: from digitalkingdom.org ([204.152.186.175] helo=chain) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19D0n9-0007I1-00; Tue, 06 May 2003 04:39:27 -0700 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Tue, 06 May 2003 04:39:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from manyas.bcc.bilkent.edu.tr ([139.179.30.24]) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19D0mu-0007Hn-00 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Tue, 06 May 2003 04:39:13 -0700 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by manyas.bcc.bilkent.edu.tr (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE887320A0 for ; Tue, 6 May 2003 14:38:39 +0300 (EEST) Received: from bilkent.edu.tr (ppp103.bcc.bilkent.edu.tr [139.179.111.103]) by manyas.bcc.bilkent.edu.tr (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0F283200D for ; Tue, 6 May 2003 14:38:37 +0300 (EEST) Message-ID: <3EB8023E.7000300@bilkent.edu.tr> Date: Tue, 06 May 2003 14:43:10 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.3) Gecko/20030313 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lojban-list@lojban.org Subject: [lojban] Re: 1st Person Imperative References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS snapshot-20020531 X-archive-position: 5155 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: robin@bilkent.edu.tr Precedence: bulk X-list: lojban-list X-eGroups-From: "robin.bcc" From: "robin.bcc" Reply-To: robin@bilkent.edu.tr X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790 X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out Craig wrote: >>What's the 1st Person Imperative analogous to 'ko'? > > >>How do you say "Let's eat!"? > > > doi ma'a ko citka In practice I'd use ".e'u ma'a citka" rather than an imperative here, since "Let's eat" is a suggestion, not a command. The closest thing I can find to a 1st person plural imperative in English is performatives like "We ride!" (usually spoken by a barbarian leader in a fantasy film). In that case I might use "ko". robin.tr -- "A Perl script is "correct" if it gets the job done before your boss fires you." - Larry Wall Robin Turner IDMYO Bilkent Univeritesi Ankara 06533 Turkey www.bilkent.edu.tr/~robin From lojban-out@lojban.org Tue May 06 04:39:33 2003 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_6_6); 6 May 2003 11:39:33 -0000 Received: (qmail 47444 invoked from network); 6 May 2003 11:39:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m11.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 6 May 2003 11:39:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO digitalkingdom.org) (204.152.186.175) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 6 May 2003 11:39:32 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.12) id 19D0nE-0007IK-00 for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Tue, 06 May 2003 04:39:32 -0700 Received: from digitalkingdom.org ([204.152.186.175] helo=chain) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19D0n9-0007I1-00; Tue, 06 May 2003 04:39:27 -0700 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Tue, 06 May 2003 04:39:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from manyas.bcc.bilkent.edu.tr ([139.179.30.24]) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19D0mu-0007Hn-00 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Tue, 06 May 2003 04:39:13 -0700 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by manyas.bcc.bilkent.edu.tr (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE887320A0 for ; Tue, 6 May 2003 14:38:39 +0300 (EEST) Received: from bilkent.edu.tr (ppp103.bcc.bilkent.edu.tr [139.179.111.103]) by manyas.bcc.bilkent.edu.tr (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0F283200D for ; Tue, 6 May 2003 14:38:37 +0300 (EEST) Message-ID: <3EB8023E.7000300@bilkent.edu.tr> Date: Tue, 06 May 2003 14:43:10 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.3) Gecko/20030313 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lojban-list@lojban.org Subject: [lojban] Re: 1st Person Imperative References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS snapshot-20020531 X-archive-position: 5155 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: robin@bilkent.edu.tr Precedence: bulk X-list: lojban-list X-eGroups-From: "robin.bcc" From: "robin.bcc" Reply-To: robin@bilkent.edu.tr X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790 X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out Craig wrote: >>What's the 1st Person Imperative analogous to 'ko'? > > >>How do you say "Let's eat!"? > > > doi ma'a ko citka In practice I'd use ".e'u ma'a citka" rather than an imperative here, since "Let's eat" is a suggestion, not a command. The closest thing I can find to a 1st person plural imperative in English is performatives like "We ride!" (usually spoken by a barbarian leader in a fantasy film). In that case I might use "ko". robin.tr -- "A Perl script is "correct" if it gets the job done before your boss fires you." - Larry Wall Robin Turner IDMYO Bilkent Univeritesi Ankara 06533 Turkey www.bilkent.edu.tr/~robin