From MorphemeAddict@wmconnect.com Tue May 06 12:38:06 2003 Return-Path: X-Sender: MorphemeAddict@wmconnect.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_6_6); 6 May 2003 19:38:06 -0000 Received: (qmail 21939 invoked from network); 6 May 2003 19:38:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m12.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 6 May 2003 19:38:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-r04.mx.aol.com) (152.163.225.100) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 6 May 2003 19:38:05 -0000 Received: from MorphemeAddict@wmconnect.com by imo-r04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v34.22.) id r.10d.23f47ac0 (4446) for ; Tue, 6 May 2003 15:37:59 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <10d.23f47ac0.2be96916@wmconnect.com> Date: Tue, 6 May 2003 15:37:58 EDT Subject: measuring semantic space To: lojban@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_10d.23f47ac0.2be96916_boundary" X-Mailer: 6.0 sub 12 From: MorphemeAddict@wmconnect.com X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=137764184 X-Yahoo-Profile: lojbaner --part1_10d.23f47ac0.2be96916_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2003-05-06 5:56:54 AM Eastern Daylight Time, lojban@yahoogroups.com writes: > How does one demonstrate that? (Or, for starters, measure semantic space?) > my first thought is: by starting with everything and successively dividing it into smaller spaces. rick morneau (creator of katanda/nasendi) does this or very similar. second thought: use concept lists (e.g. roget's thesaurus). i don't know what the 35 minimal concepts that have been mentioned here are (any pointers, anyone?), but if i choose 5 concepts, something is likely to get left out. if i choose 50 or 500, i think the same is true: something will get left out. btw, toki pona comes to mind as a minimalist language. stevo --part1_10d.23f47ac0.2be96916_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable In a message dated 2003-05-06 5:56:54 AM Easte= rn Daylight Time, lojban@yahoogroups.com writes:


How does one demonstrate = that? (Or, for starters, measure semantic space?)

my first thought is: by starting with everything and= successively dividing it into smaller spaces.  rick morneau (creator = of katanda/nasendi) does this or very similar.  

second thought:  use concept lists (e.g. roget's thesaurus).

i don't know what the 35 minimal concepts that have been mentioned here= are (any pointers, anyone?), but if i choose 5 concepts, something is like= ly to get left out. if i choose 50 or 500, i think the same is true:  = something will get left out.  btw, toki pona comes to mind as a minima= list language.  

stevo
--part1_10d.23f47ac0.2be96916_boundary-- From MorphemeAddict@wmconnect.com Tue May 06 12:38:06 2003 Return-Path: X-Sender: MorphemeAddict@wmconnect.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_6_6); 6 May 2003 19:38:06 -0000 Received: (qmail 21939 invoked from network); 6 May 2003 19:38:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m12.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 6 May 2003 19:38:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-r04.mx.aol.com) (152.163.225.100) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 6 May 2003 19:38:05 -0000 Received: from MorphemeAddict@wmconnect.com by imo-r04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v34.22.) id r.10d.23f47ac0 (4446) for ; Tue, 6 May 2003 15:37:59 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <10d.23f47ac0.2be96916@wmconnect.com> Date: Tue, 6 May 2003 15:37:58 EDT Subject: measuring semantic space To: lojban@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_10d.23f47ac0.2be96916_boundary" X-Mailer: 6.0 sub 12 From: MorphemeAddict@wmconnect.com X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=137764184 X-Yahoo-Profile: lojbaner --part1_10d.23f47ac0.2be96916_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2003-05-06 5:56:54 AM Eastern Daylight Time, lojban@yahoogroups.com writes: > How does one demonstrate that? (Or, for starters, measure semantic space?) > my first thought is: by starting with everything and successively dividing it into smaller spaces. rick morneau (creator of katanda/nasendi) does this or very similar. second thought: use concept lists (e.g. roget's thesaurus). i don't know what the 35 minimal concepts that have been mentioned here are (any pointers, anyone?), but if i choose 5 concepts, something is likely to get left out. if i choose 50 or 500, i think the same is true: something will get left out. btw, toki pona comes to mind as a minimalist language. stevo --part1_10d.23f47ac0.2be96916_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable In a message dated 2003-05-06 5:56:54 AM Easte= rn Daylight Time, lojban@yahoogroups.com writes:


How does one demonstrate = that? (Or, for starters, measure semantic space?)

my first thought is: by starting with everything and= successively dividing it into smaller spaces.  rick morneau (creator = of katanda/nasendi) does this or very similar.  

second thought:  use concept lists (e.g. roget's thesaurus).

i don't know what the 35 minimal concepts that have been mentioned here= are (any pointers, anyone?), but if i choose 5 concepts, something is like= ly to get left out. if i choose 50 or 500, i think the same is true:  = something will get left out.  btw, toki pona comes to mind as a minima= list language.  

stevo
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