From lojban-out@lojban.org Tue May 06 12:55:45 2003 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_6_6); 6 May 2003 19:55:45 -0000 Received: (qmail 51000 invoked from network); 6 May 2003 19:55:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m12.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 6 May 2003 19:55:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO digitalkingdom.org) (204.152.186.175) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 6 May 2003 19:55:44 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.12) id 19D8XQ-0005rL-00 for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Tue, 06 May 2003 12:55:44 -0700 Received: from digitalkingdom.org ([204.152.186.175] helo=chain) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19D8XK-0005r2-00; Tue, 06 May 2003 12:55:38 -0700 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Tue, 06 May 2003 12:55:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from miranda.org ([209.58.150.153] ident=qmailr) by digitalkingdom.org with smtp (Exim 4.12) id 19D8X9-0005qt-00 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Tue, 06 May 2003 12:55:27 -0700 Received: (qmail 3366 invoked by uid 534); 6 May 2003 19:55:26 -0000 Date: Tue, 6 May 2003 13:55:26 -0600 To: lojban-list@lojban.org Subject: [lojban] Re: measuring semantic space Message-ID: <20030506195526.GO15743@miranda.org> References: <10d.23f47ac0.2be96916@wmconnect.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <10d.23f47ac0.2be96916@wmconnect.com> Accept-Language: art-lojban, en User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.1i X-archive-position: 5162 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: jkominek@miranda.org Precedence: bulk X-list: lojban-list X-eGroups-From: Jay F Kominek From: Jay F Kominek Reply-To: jkominek@miranda.org X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790 X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out On Tue, May 06, 2003 at 03:37:58PM -0400, MorphemeAddict@wmconnect.com wrote: > In a message dated 2003-05-06 5:56:54 AM Eastern Daylight Time, lojban@yahoogroups.com writes: > > > How does one demonstrate that? (Or, for starters, measure semantic space?) > > my first thought is: by starting with everything and successively dividing it > into smaller spaces. rick morneau (creator of katanda/nasendi) does this or > very similar. And when do you stop dividing? > second thought: use concept lists (e.g. roget's thesaurus). That does nothing for you, as you have no idea (let alone evidence or *proof*!) that whatever list you use is complete. -- Jay Kominek Genius may have its limitations, but stupidity is not thus handicapped. -- Elbert Hubbard From lojban-out@lojban.org Tue May 06 12:55:45 2003 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_6_6); 6 May 2003 19:55:45 -0000 Received: (qmail 51000 invoked from network); 6 May 2003 19:55:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m12.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 6 May 2003 19:55:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO digitalkingdom.org) (204.152.186.175) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 6 May 2003 19:55:44 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.12) id 19D8XQ-0005rL-00 for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Tue, 06 May 2003 12:55:44 -0700 Received: from digitalkingdom.org ([204.152.186.175] helo=chain) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19D8XK-0005r2-00; Tue, 06 May 2003 12:55:38 -0700 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Tue, 06 May 2003 12:55:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from miranda.org ([209.58.150.153] ident=qmailr) by digitalkingdom.org with smtp (Exim 4.12) id 19D8X9-0005qt-00 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Tue, 06 May 2003 12:55:27 -0700 Received: (qmail 3366 invoked by uid 534); 6 May 2003 19:55:26 -0000 Date: Tue, 6 May 2003 13:55:26 -0600 To: lojban-list@lojban.org Subject: [lojban] Re: measuring semantic space Message-ID: <20030506195526.GO15743@miranda.org> References: <10d.23f47ac0.2be96916@wmconnect.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <10d.23f47ac0.2be96916@wmconnect.com> Accept-Language: art-lojban, en User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.1i X-archive-position: 5162 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: jkominek@miranda.org Precedence: bulk X-list: lojban-list X-eGroups-From: Jay F Kominek From: Jay F Kominek Reply-To: jkominek@miranda.org X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790 X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out On Tue, May 06, 2003 at 03:37:58PM -0400, MorphemeAddict@wmconnect.com wrote: > In a message dated 2003-05-06 5:56:54 AM Eastern Daylight Time, lojban@yahoogroups.com writes: > > > How does one demonstrate that? (Or, for starters, measure semantic space?) > > my first thought is: by starting with everything and successively dividing it > into smaller spaces. rick morneau (creator of katanda/nasendi) does this or > very similar. And when do you stop dividing? > second thought: use concept lists (e.g. roget's thesaurus). That does nothing for you, as you have no idea (let alone evidence or *proof*!) that whatever list you use is complete. -- Jay Kominek Genius may have its limitations, but stupidity is not thus handicapped. -- Elbert Hubbard