From jjllambias@hotmail.com Fri Mar 3 14:07:27 2000
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Date: Fri, 03 Mar 2000 14:07:27 PST
From: "Jorge Llambias" <jjllambias@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: final clubs


> > >Club A imposes no conditions on its members
> > >Club B requires members to swear a loyalty oath,
> > > and to swear no other oaths
> > >Club C requires members to swear a loyalty oath,
> > > and to swear no other oaths
> >
> > How can you tell in that example that it is B and C that
> > are final, and not that A is the only final club?

la xod cusku di'e

>Because you can't be a member of B and C, unless you join them
>simultaneously. If A was final and {B, C} were not, you could join both B
>and C.

Sorry, I don't understand. A can be final by itself:
Membership in A precludes membership in any other
final club (which happen to be none).
Membership in B or C does not preclude membership
in A, which is the only final club, so they are not
final clubs. This is consistent with the definition
of final clubs. You cannot join both B and C, but
that is not enough to make them final.

Of course, B and C being final and A not final is
also consistent. That is why final clubs are not well
defined in this situation. We have two possible
answers.

co'o mi'e xorxes

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