From araizen@newmail.net Sat Mar 04 13:39:32 2000 Received: (qmail 12276 invoked from network); 4 Mar 2000 21:39:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by m3.onelist.org with QMQP; 4 Mar 2000 21:39:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO out.newmail.net) (192.117.188.36) by mta2.onelist.org with SMTP; 4 Mar 2000 21:39:40 -0000 Received: from default ([62.0.165.138]) by out.newmail.net ; Sat, 04 Mar 2000 23:37:53 +02:00 To: lojban@onelist.com Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2000 23:41:36 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: [lojban] Sets etc. Reply-to: araizen@newmail.net Priority: normal In-reply-to: <20000303170336.62544.qmail@hotmail.com> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.11) Message-ID: <95224187401@out.newmail.net> X-eGroups-From: "Adam Raizen" From: "Adam Raizen" la xorxes cusku di'e > la adam cusku di'e > > >lei pano mlatu cu jersi le bolci > > > >Let's say that only 4 of the individual cats actually chased the ball. > >Why can't I consider those 4 to be one of 2 members of the mass, > >the other member being those that didn't chase the ball. > > Of course you can. > > lei vo mlatu cu jersi le bolci ije lei drata mlatu na go'i > > Nothing stops you from describing the same situation in > a different way when you want to point out different > aspects of it. I meant without describing it in a different way. There is a group of 10 cats. A ball rolls by. A few of them (4, it so happens) chase after it. I say, "lei pano mlatu cu jersi le bolci". I have thereby created a mass, which I may consider to have 2 members, the chasers and the non-chasers. i co'o mi'e adam araizen@newmail.net ------------------------------------------------------------- The human race divides politically into those who want people to be controlled and those who have no such desire. --Robert Heinlein