From jjllambias@hotmail.com Wed Apr 12 17:24:58 2000 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 29908 invoked from network); 13 Apr 2000 00:24:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by m4.onelist.org with QMQP; 13 Apr 2000 00:24:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hotmail.com) (216.33.241.65) by mta2 with SMTP; 13 Apr 2000 00:24:58 -0000 Received: (qmail 41950 invoked by uid 0); 13 Apr 2000 00:24:58 -0000 Message-ID: <20000413002458.41949.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 200.41.247.39 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Wed, 12 Apr 2000 17:24:58 PDT X-Originating-IP: [200.41.247.39] To: lojban@onelist.com Subject: Re: [lojban] RECORD: connective order Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 17:24:58 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed X-eGroups-From: "Jorge Llambias" From: "Jorge Llambias" la pycyn cusku di'e >Connectives (and quantifiers) expand in left to right order, so A a B C e >D >is >A C e D ija B C e D. >(Can this be altered by, for example using prefix forms? But that does, in >fact, put the the connective first, I suppose. I think it doesn't change anything. ga A gi B C e D should still expand as before. >Are there things like >parentheses for this? The only thing that occurs to me that could make a difference is {bo}. Maybe A abo B C e D does expand the other way? It's still dubious though, because {bo} already has another function, and it will conflict in more complex cases. >Does the difference between sumti connective and >various predicate connective make a difference?) Obviously selbri connectives should expand before trailing sumti, but I don't know what happens with the sumti in front of the selbri. They probably should expand first. This may cause conflict with negation though, let's see: ko'a e ko'e na broda gi'a brode Is that: ko'a na broda gi'a brode ija ko'a na broda gi'a brode where {e} went to {ija} because of the negation, or is it something else? co'o mi'e xorxes ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com