From jjllambias@hotmail.com Thu May 11 13:55:17 2000 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 20510 invoked from network); 11 May 2000 20:55:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by m1.onelist.org with QMQP; 11 May 2000 20:55:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO qh.egroups.com) (10.1.2.28) by mta2 with SMTP; 11 May 2000 20:55:17 -0000 Received: (qmail 11863 invoked from network); 11 May 2000 20:55:17 -0000 Received: from n9.onelist.org (HELO fl.egroups.com) (10.1.10.48) by iqh.egroups.com with SMTP; 11 May 2000 20:55:17 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: jjllambias@hotmail.com Received: from [10.1.10.116] by fl.egroups.com with NNFMP; 11 May 2000 20:55:17 -0000 Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 20:55:13 -0000 To: lojban@egroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] centripetality: subset vs component Message-ID: <8ff6nh+6i5h@eGroups.com> In-Reply-To: <4.2.2.20000511053858.00aca240@127.0.0.1> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 935 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster From: "Jorge Llambias" la lojbab cusku di'e > ONE part of the language has leftward expansion. > All the rest is rightward. The two aspects most relevant to dates have leftward expansion: numbers (the integer part) and tanru. Numbers are ordered most significant digit to least significant digit, with zeroes elided from both ends. If we were to use leftward expansion for numbers then {li pareci} would be three hundred and twenty-one. I think that is what has the most relevance to dates. The order for numbers is: .... hundreds, tens, units,., tenths, hundredths .... with elisions at both ends. It makes a lot of sense to use the same method for dates because they are exactly the same type of object in Lojban, a li-sumti. If we use a tanru to express a date it has to be something like: {le 2000moi nanca ke 5moi masti ke 11moi djedi} There is no way that you can put the year as the tertau to single out one day. co'o mi'e xorxes