From phm@A2E.DE Fri May 12 01:12:51 2000 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 17136 invoked from network); 12 May 2000 08:12:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by m1.onelist.org with QMQP; 12 May 2000 08:12:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.camelot.de) (195.30.224.3) by mta3 with SMTP; 12 May 2000 08:12:49 -0000 Received: from robin.camelot.de (uucp@robin.camelot.de [195.30.224.3]) by mail.camelot.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA03857; Fri, 12 May 2000 10:12:47 +0200 (CEST) Received: from oas.a2e.de (uucp@localhost) by robin.camelot.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with UUCP id KAA03854; Fri, 12 May 2000 10:12:47 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost by wtao97 via sendmail with esmtp id for ; Fri, 12 May 2000 08:06:43 +0000 (/etc/localtime) (Smail-3.2 1996-Jul-4 #1 built 1999-Nov-8) Date: Fri, 12 May 2000 08:06:43 +0000 (/etc/localtime) X-Sender: phm@wtao97.oas.a2e.de To: Invent Yourself Cc: Lojban Listserver Subject: Re: [lojban] centripetality: subset vs component In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII From: PILCH Hartmut > Fascinating! Are Asians and Europeans truly outraged by our > "aggressive" use of first names? no, but a little estranged sometimes. There is a little clash of norms. I think I wrote that quite clearly anyway. > In general, little endian makes more sense. I live in Soho. If you don't > know where that is, I'll tell you it's in Manhattan, and so on. You apparently didn't read my argumentation. You repeat the same fallacies that have been debated over and over again. I should create some "liste of popular linguistic errors concerning date structures". In short: there are two different hierarchies of importance: that of the listener and that of the speaker. The communication-centered vs the ego-centered one. Tho Postman does not first go to Soho but to the the next smaller radius after the common circle that connects him to you, e.g. "U.S. ==> New York". "New York" is the important part, not "Soho". Soho is the nucleus/center of the expression, and centripetality just means that expansion goes leftward. -phm