From lojbab@lojban.org Thu May 18 12:58:22 2000 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 691 invoked from network); 18 May 2000 19:58:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m2.onelist.org with QMQP; 18 May 2000 19:58:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO stmpy.cais.net) (205.252.14.63) by mta1 with SMTP; 18 May 2000 19:58:22 -0000 Received: from bob ([209.8.89.67]) by stmpy.cais.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA11755 for ; Thu, 18 May 2000 15:56:41 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <4.2.2.20000518154817.00ac0420@127.0.0.1> X-Sender: vir1036/pop.cais.com@127.0.0.1 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Thu, 18 May 2000 16:00:18 -0400 To: lojban@egroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] RECORD: Shqip In-Reply-To: <94.4835de0.265509c6@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed From: "Bob LeChevalier (lojbab)" At 04:54 AM 05/18/2000 -0400, pycyn@aol.com wrote: >Lojban is not suitable for representing Vulcan because >1. it is too obviously terrestrial (evolved in the wrong ocean) So is Klingon. But that didn't stop it. >2. it is not logical in the appropriate sense (too emotional for starters) That Lojban can be used for emotional expression does not mean that it has to be. More properly, Vulcan would be a subset of Lojban (perhaps the Vulcan we would hear on teh set is degraded Lojban = the attitudinals having been evolved out of the language (or more likely mutated into non-emotional but similar meanings). >3. Paramount is not amenable. No one knows this. The subject has never been raised to my knowledge. We can presume that they would be less interested than they were in Okrand's work simply because of the control issue. They also do not need a fully developed language like Lojban - just enough for verisimilitude. Most importantly, I think you left off the points that several Lojbanists do not favor the idea of trying to equate Vulcan and Lojban. I think several reasons were cited in the discussion by different people. PS, why is your subject seeming to refer to Albania when you talk about Vulcan? %^) lojbab ---- lojbab lojbab@lojban.org Bob LeChevalier, President, The Logical Language Group, Inc. 2904 Beau Lane, Fairfax VA 22031-1303 USA 703-385-0273 Artificial language Loglan/Lojban: http://www.lojban.org