From pycyn@aol.com Fri May 19 01:54:58 2000 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 31397 invoked from network); 19 May 2000 08:54:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by m2.onelist.org with QMQP; 19 May 2000 08:54:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo21.mx.aol.com) (152.163.225.65) by mta2 with SMTP; 19 May 2000 08:54:58 -0000 Received: from Pycyn@aol.com by imo21.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v26.7.) id a.24.531b096 (4587) for ; Fri, 19 May 2000 04:54:52 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <24.531b096.26565b5c@aol.com> Date: Fri, 19 May 2000 04:54:52 EDT Subject: RECORD: place structure. To: lojban@egroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 16-bit for Windows sub 41 From: pycyn@aol.com The places of a gismu are {te gismu} and of a bridi {te bridi} What for a brivla? The places of a brivla are restricted to those essential to the meaning of the predicate, with those most likely to be dropped contextually placed later in left-to-right order. There are some other regulaities of order as well: agent tends to be first, sender precedes recipient, but destination precedes origin. In any case, it is a design principle of Loglan that memorizing even a completely arbitrary set of predicate places would be easier than learning bare predicates plus an indefinite set of preposition/cases and the ways that they might combine.