From iad@MATH.BAS.BG Sat May 27 06:58:34 2000 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 12336 invoked from network); 27 May 2000 13:58:34 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m1.onelist.org with QMQP; 27 May 2000 13:58:34 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO argo.bas.bg) (195.96.224.7) by mta1 with SMTP; 27 May 2000 13:58:27 -0000 Received: from banmatpc.math.bas.bg (root@banmatpc.math.bas.bg [195.96.243.2]) by argo.bas.bg (8.10.1/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-6) with ESMTP id e4RDw3n00895 for ; Sat, 27 May 2000 16:58:10 +0300 Received: from iad.math.bas.bg (iad.math.bas.bg [195.96.243.88]) by banmatpc.math.bas.bg (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id QAA19174 for ; Sat, 27 May 2000 16:57:59 +0300 Message-ID: <392FD495.1F3C@math.bas.bg> Date: Sat, 27 May 2000 16:58:45 +0300 Reply-To: iad@math.bas.bg Organization: Institute for Mathematics and Computer Science X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win95; I; 16bit) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: The Lojban List Subject: Re: [lojban] coi rodo - mi'e .aulun. References: <20000526225531.69487.qmail@hotmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Ivan A Derzhanski Jorge Llambias wrote: > >Chuangtze and Huitze had > >strolled on to the bridge over the Hao, [...] > i ca le nu la tcuantsen e la xuitsen In my view {n} is a very poor choice of a consonant wherewith to end a cmene made from a Chinese name, because it's one of the very few that the hearer won't be able to recognise as such. All things considered, I'd go for {tcuan,ts} and {xuei,ts}. (Or maybe not. People might be tempted to insert an auxiliary vowel between the two components of the affricate, which would be awful.) > ba'o dzukla le cripu be le xaos kei Make that {xaus}. > >"You yourself are not a fish," said Huitze, [...] > i lu do na finpe sei xy cusku [...] li'u > > >"And you not being I," retorted Chuangtze, > > i lu va'o le nu do na du mi sei ty spuda [...] li'u {do na finpe} vs {do na du mi} does not quite get across the parallelism of the original, which had, I take it, something like _ni3 bu4shi4 yu2_ vs _ni3 bu4shi4 wo3_. There should be a way of making the two utterances more similar. ... --Ivan