From jcowan@reutershealth.com Thu Jun 01 09:09:59 2000 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 29545 invoked from network); 1 Jun 2000 16:09:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by m1.onelist.org with QMQP; 1 Jun 2000 16:09:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.reutershealth.com) (204.243.9.36) by mta3 with SMTP; 1 Jun 2000 16:09:59 -0000 Received: from reutershealth.com (IDENT:cowan@skunk.reutershealth.com [204.243.9.153]) by mail.reutershealth.com (Pro-8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA07419; Thu, 1 Jun 2000 12:09:56 -0400 (EDT) Sender: cowan@mail.reutershealth.com Message-ID: <39368AAF.3546FB45@reutershealth.com> Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2000 12:09:19 -0400 Organization: Reuters Health Information X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.5-15 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "James F. Carter" , "lojban@onelist.com" Subject: CHAT: American dialects (was: Chinese names) References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: John Cowan "James F. Carter" wrote: > When I attended grad school at the State University of New York at Stony > Brook, there was a guy in the dorm who sounded perfectly normal, not a > trace of New Yorkish accent. It happens; I know people born and bred in Manhattan who pronounce their "r"s. > I think pervasive exposure of people, particularly children, to > (American) English "stage speech" heard on TV and radio is totally > homogenizing USA regional dialects, and I imagine something similar is > happening in every coherent broadcast market. Nobody speaks proper New > Yorkish any more. Naah. My daughter, born in the Bronx and brought up in Manhattan, alternates between New York dialect and AAVE, with few traces of my outside-of-NYC accent or her mother's modified North Carolina. It's just that you live in California, which is the *basis* of American broadcast English. -- Schlingt dreifach einen Kreis um dies! || John Cowan Schliesst euer Aug vor heiliger Schau, || http://www.reutershealth.com Denn er genoss vom Honig-Tau, || http://www.ccil.org/~cowan Und trank die Milch vom Paradies. -- Coleridge (tr. Politzer)