From pycyn@aol.com Tue Jun 06 11:05:36 2000 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 10930 invoked from network); 6 Jun 2000 18:05:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m4.onelist.org with QMQP; 6 Jun 2000 18:05:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-r18.mx.aol.com) (152.163.225.72) by mta1 with SMTP; 6 Jun 2000 18:05:36 -0000 Received: from Pycyn@aol.com by imo-r18.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v27.9.) id a.7d.5d9eb86 (4323) for ; Tue, 6 Jun 2000 14:05:25 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <7d.5d9eb86.266e9765@aol.com> Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2000 14:05:25 EDT Subject: Re: Robin on cmene To: lojban@egroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 16-bit for Windows sub 41 From: pycyn@aol.com la robin. cusku <> Well, for cmene as an abstract concept, maybe. But not for _my_name_. That is not an arbitrary label (no matter what its history is) but a part of my identity -- to myself and to the group in which it is used. And, if I use several names (I regularly use four, in fact, and a fifth for special occasions), each of them carries with it its own aspects of my personality and interests and my special relationships with the group in which I use it. To meddle with it is to denigrate or ignore that part of me and so me taken as a whole. Now, one coming into Lojban certainly can -- and does -- make a choice about how to name oneself in that new context. If one elects to bring over as much as possible of one's public name or one's name from another context, then it is important that that come out essentially correctly. The pain of some misses have been apparent in other postings, and the urgency of getting it right -- not, I think, only to show a mastery of lb phonology (see the worry about a choice among several equally lb solutions). The above may sound a bit cuckoo, but I think it is essentially the way most people "really" feel about their names, so I expect to have problems about cmene for ever hereafter.