From jjllambias@hotmail.com Fri Jun 09 06:41:06 2000 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 8436 invoked from network); 9 Jun 2000 13:41:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by m1.onelist.org with QMQP; 9 Jun 2000 13:41:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hotmail.com) (216.33.241.194) by mta2 with SMTP; 9 Jun 2000 13:41:05 -0000 Received: (qmail 61982 invoked by uid 0); 9 Jun 2000 13:41:05 -0000 Message-ID: <20000609134105.61981.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 200.49.74.2 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Fri, 09 Jun 2000 06:41:05 PDT X-Originating-IP: [200.49.74.2] To: lojban@egroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: Robin on cmene Date: Fri, 09 Jun 2000 06:41:05 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed From: "Jorge Llambias" la lojbab cusku di'e >At 08:26 PM 06/08/2000 -0400, Pierre Abbat wrote: > > > >Actually it is associative, but the truth value tells whether the number >of > >true statements is odd or even. It tells whether the number of _false_ statements is odd or even (false for odd, true for even). The number of true statements can be odd or even, it doesn't change the overall truth value. >What you want here is something like "pa la > >mixael joi la maikyl joi la maik,l joi la micael". > >Close. This is precisely what selma'o LUhA is for. > >pa lu'a la mixael ce la maikyl ce la maik,l ce la micael [lu'u] >One from the individuals making up the set {la mx, la my, la m,l, la mc} Are these four different individuals??? I thought they were all names for the same person, Michael Helsem, so that the four connected statements had all the same truth value (true). Who are the other three persons? I think what you want to express is something like: le se cmene be pa lu'a zo mixael ce zo maikyl ce zo maik,l ce zo micael. If you use {la} you are talking about someone, not about a name. co'o mi'e xorxes ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com