From Ti@fa-kuan.muc.de Sun Jun 11 04:23:56 2000 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 7330 invoked from network); 11 Jun 2000 11:23:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by m1.onelist.org with QMQP; 11 Jun 2000 11:23:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO c3.egroups.com) (10.1.10.50) by mta2 with SMTP; 11 Jun 2000 11:23:55 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: Ti@fa-kuan.muc.de Received: from [10.1.10.94] by c3.egroups.com with NNFMP; 11 Jun 2000 11:23:54 -0000 Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2000 11:23:45 -0000 To: lojban@egroups.com Subject: Re: Some lujvo... Message-ID: <8hvss1+s5bd@eGroups.com> In-Reply-To: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 1331 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster From: "=?iso-8859-1?q?Alfred_W._T=FCting?=" la pycyn. pu cusku di'e > 6) ceirmamta or cesmamta (rather than: la ceirmam. :) - la mydanys. >> 6) 1 is a god mother/ holy mother of 2 -- probably not culturally neutral: >> maybe social mother or religious mother or education mother is more neutral >> -- every culture seems to have such a job. I did *not* want be *neutral*, but find an expression for 'Madonna' (God's mother). Is it the task of Lojban to be neutral at any cost? One could create a monstre lujvo with built-in definition (mother-of-god-Jesus-Christ-in-the-sense-of-Roman-Catholic- Greek-Orthodox .... religious-understanding), but that is not the goal. Shouldn't we try to get concise and unambiguous expressions, e.g. of Chinese type "shenfu" (Roman-Catholic missionary priest)? How about 'Rabbi' (ravvi) as /doictu/ (do ctucu)? Or / solcevni/solcei (solri cevni)? >7) zirblagrute >> 7) 1 is a bluish-purple fruit of species 2 (grape? plum? eggplant?) Shouldn't /zirbla/ be purplish-blue? Is eggplant a fruit or a vegetable? - It might be /grute/ anyway ;) > 8) zirblaborutytricu >> >> 8) 1 is a fruit tree of species 2 (as above -- scratch eggplant) Do eggplants grow on trees??? Can't imagine that /tricu/ comprises shrubs, bushes and that kind of smaller plants, especially those annual herbaceous plants (Germ.: Stauden). ki'e mi'e .aulun.