From grey.havens@earthling.net Mon Jun 12 01:05:53 2000 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 12629 invoked from network); 12 Jun 2000 08:05:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by m4.onelist.org with QMQP; 12 Jun 2000 08:05:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO postfix1.free.fr) (212.27.32.21) by mta3 with SMTP; 12 Jun 2000 08:05:52 -0000 Received: from burp (paris11-nas8-54-174.dial.proxad.net [212.27.54.174]) by postfix1.free.fr (Postfix) with SMTP id 921E228155; Mon, 12 Jun 2000 10:05:49 +0200 (MEST) Sender: raph@free.fr Message-ID: <39449276.2ED3BB05@earthling.net> Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 07:34:14 +0000 X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (X11; I; Linux 2.2.15 i586) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lojban@egroups.com Subject: Request for lujvo Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Raphael Hi! I just made two programs, called ciskrtengua fanvyselpli (ciskrtengua fanva bo se plino) and ciskrtengua rolylervelci'a bo fanvyselpli (ciskrtengua ke ro lerfu ve ciska ke'e bo ke fanva se plino ke'e) Unfortunately, these names are far too long for daily use and, especially, unsuitable for naming executable files. Unfortunately too, I have been unable to find short names that are both correct Lojban AND carry some of the meaning of the full names. My attemps were: tengfaplin/tengrfanplin/tengufan tenglerfaplin/tengroler These are, IMO, much too poor, and it seems like I have a problem with "ten" which is a rafsi for something that hasn't anything to do with writing. On the other hand, it is quite necessary for these programs to convey "teng" somewhere in their names. Could it be possible to make Lojban names that are abbreviations of other Lojban constructs, and understood as such ? If yes, how ? ('ctengyfysyp' or 'ctengrylyvycyfysyp' do not sound right to me) Any other ideas ? Thanks in advance, raph PS: do the names that I chose carry the meaning that I intended to give them ? Especially, I wonder if my use of "ro" in a tanru/lujvo is right. PS2: the background work which leads to these two programs, together with the two programs themselves (and others!), will be available as soon as I get all the vocab. issues solved.