Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: lujvo

From: "michael helsem" <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 14:29:38 PDT

.oizo'o slabu ke gadri nuncfipu filu'e zoigy. really is gy.
(The dreaded words "really is" strike again!)

>From: John Cowan <[email-masked]>
>To: "[email-masked]" <[email-masked]>
>Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: lujvo
>Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 09:30:23 -0400
>
>Robin Lee Powell wrote:
>
> > I would have read "lo
> > [dragon] klama" as ipmyling something like "Some dragons, oh, by the
> > way, dragons really exist, go", which is apparently wrong. So I take it
> > all back. :)
>
>The problem with that is the notion "really exist". As Ray Smullyan says,
>you can no more examine a chair and tell if it is "real" than you can 
>examine
>a window and tell if it is going to be broken in a few hours. Reality is
>the dream-state we don't wake up from (except perhaps when we are dead,
>who knows).
>
>But yes, predicating something about dragons implicitly asserts that there
>are dragons to predicate about.
>
>--
>
>Schlingt dreifach einen Kreis um dies! || John Cowan 
><[email-masked]>
>Schliesst euer Aug vor heiliger Schau, || http://www.reutershealth.com
>Denn er genoss vom Honig-Tau, || http://www.ccil.org/~cowan
>Und trank die Milch vom Paradies. -- Coleridge (tr. Politzer)

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