From Ti@fa-kuan.muc.de Wed Jun 14 15:11:58 2000 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 11546 invoked from network); 14 Jun 2000 22:11:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m2.onelist.org with QMQP; 14 Jun 2000 22:11:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mu.egroups.com) (10.1.1.40) by mta1 with SMTP; 14 Jun 2000 22:11:56 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: Ti@fa-kuan.muc.de Received: from [10.1.10.95] by mu.egroups.com with NNFMP; 14 Jun 2000 23:12:00 -0000 Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 22:11:50 -0000 To: lojban@egroups.com Subject: Re: Lojban & poetry Message-ID: <8i8vv6+js89@eGroups.com> In-Reply-To: <20000614024521.37352.qmail@hotmail.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Length: 913 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster From: "=?iso-8859-1?q?Alfred_W._Tueting_(T=FCting)?=" --- In lojban@egroups.com, "Jorge Llambias" wrote: > i daskyne'i ctilygrute coi xorxes. e rodo I am still pondering on the lujvo /ctilygrute/ ctile 43.34 petroleum/oil o ciieu oil butal petrole nieft naft ciieu oil butal petrole nieft batrol (petroleum ) and see that the gismu /ctile/ not only is defined as "petroleum' but also derives from expressions with that meaning: as you can see every language except English unambiguously gives the word for *mineral* oil. ( also Mandarin: 'ciieu' obviously is 'shi you' =A5=DB=AAo "stone-oil"). Many languages (except English, German, Hungarian...) do not use 'oil' but for non-edible oils: e.g. in Romanian it's 'ulei' (petroleum) and 'unt de lemn' (=3Dwood-butter) for edible grease/oil etc.. So maybe /rasygrute/ 'Oilfruit'/olive would be more appropriate - okay? co'o mi'e .aulun.