From phma@oltronics.net Thu Jun 22 09:59:38 2000 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 22533 invoked from network); 22 Jun 2000 16:59:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m3.onelist.org with QMQP; 22 Jun 2000 16:59:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.oltronics.net) (204.213.85.8) by mta1 with SMTP; 22 Jun 2000 16:59:32 -0000 Received: from neofelis (root@localhost) by mail.oltronics.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id MAA31367 for ; Thu, 22 Jun 2000 12:59:28 -0400 X-BlackMail: 207.15.133.15, neofelis, , 207.15.133.15 X-Authenticated-Timestamp: 12:59:28(EDT) on June 22, 2000 To: lojban@egroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] on Lojban pronunciation Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 12:46:54 -0400 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.0.28] Content-Type: text/plain References: <8it7kf+68ob@eGroups.com> In-Reply-To: <8it7kf+68ob@eGroups.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <00062212592722.00922@neofelis> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit From: Pierre Abbat >(French - and maybe Chinese - speaking Lojbanists excluded for >ambiguous /x/=/c/ (French) or /x/=/s/ (pinyin 'x'/W.-G. >'hs'). The Lojban /x/ does not exist in French. Its voiced countepart is the French /r/. The people who would confuse /x/ and /c/ are the Hessians. Sitzt e Würmche mit em Schirmche unerm Ärmche uffem Türmche. Kimmt e Stürmche fegt das Würmche mit dem Schirmche unerm Ärmche von dem Türmche. "Schirmche" sounds like /cirmcy/ where the /r/ is a faint echo of what you hear in "hear". phma