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Subject: Re: [lojban] RECORD: containers 
In-Reply-To: Message from Robin <robin@Bilkent.EDU.TR> of "Mon, 26 Jun 2000 02:36:12 +0300." <3956976C.5DB3BE72@bilkent.edu.tr> 
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From: Robin Lee Powell <rlpowell@csclub.uwaterloo.ca>


Robin writes:
>Jorge Llambias wrote:
>> 
>> la pycyn cusku di'e
>> 
>> >I skip over the problem (for which lb has no better solution
>> >than English) of internal and external negations -- that this is
>> >a bottle but not one containing something, and simply say
>> >that, given we do acknowledge that ta is a bottle
>> 
>> This is the point. If we take the place structures seriously,
>> ta is actually being a botpi only when it contains something,
>> a side effect of the inflated place structures. 
>
>Can't you have a botpi containing nothing (or air?)?

And isn't this what zo'e is for anyways? Or leaving a place
unspecified? And since when does 'le zdani' require there to be
something living there?

-Robin

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