From jorge@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx.xxx Fri Feb 19 23:31:17 1999 X-Digest-Num: 67 Message-ID: <44114.67.326.959273824@eGroups.com> Date: Sat, 20 Feb 1999 04:31:17 -0300 From: "=?us-ascii?Q?Jorge_J._Llamb=EDas?=" .i .eo doi solri ko kurji ro'i >.i .eo le pruxi cu prami je gleki >.i .eo doi lunra ko kurji ro'e >.i .eo le menli cu sarlu je sanji >.i .eo doi fagri ko kurji ro'o >.i .eo le xadni cu kanro je tsali I think {sarlu} was meant to be {surla}... >NOTE: strictly speaking, {doi} requires a cmene, so it ought to be {la solr.} >etc. but that screws up the poesy, so I left them as gismu. Also in normal >Lojban usage {doi} would be preceded by a vocative - in this case {pe'u} - but >{.eo} is still grammatical, and sounds better here. Actually, {doi} followed by a selbri is quite common, and there's no need for it to be preceded by another vocative, {doi} is the "pure" vocative and it works well by itself. I liked that prayer very much. Also it's interesting that aside from the three attitudinal modifiers that you use (ro'i, ro'e, ro'o), the remaining three also fall within the same three spheres. Those three are the basic ones, pertaining directly to the person, and the other three (re'e, ro'a, ro'u) reflect the relationship with others: spiritual/religious relates to emotion from the point of view of a community, social might be seen as the community interacting in mind, and sexual is the physical interaction, of two in its most intense form, but also with others in more dilute expressions. co'o mi'e xorxes