From lojbab@lojban.org Thu Jul 06 06:49:05 2000 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 21371 invoked from network); 6 Jul 2000 13:49:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by m1.onelist.org with QMQP; 6 Jul 2000 13:49:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO stmpy-1.cais.net) (205.252.14.71) by mta1 with SMTP; 6 Jul 2000 13:49:04 -0000 Received: from bob (117.dynamic.cais.com [207.226.56.117]) by stmpy-1.cais.net (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e66Dn3k70896 for ; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 09:49:03 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from lojbab@lojban.org) Message-Id: <4.2.2.20000706094131.00a45f00@127.0.0.1> X-Sender: vir1036/pop.cais.com@127.0.0.1 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Thu, 06 Jul 2000 09:49:01 -0400 To: lojban@egroups.com Subject: RE: [lojban] Now I herd everything! In-Reply-To: <0007052224030F.05126@neofelis> References: <20000706010753.98020.qmail@hotmail.com> <20000706010753.98020.qmail@hotmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed From: "Bob LeChevalier (lojbab)" At 10:20 PM 07/05/2000 -0400, Pierre Abbat wrote: >On Wed, 05 Jul 2000, Jorge Llambias wrote: > >>na'i .i zo teprespa lujvo zoigy. dinosaur .gy lu terpa respa li'u > > > >i zo tepyrespa lujvo > >i lu teprespa li'u du lu te prespa li'u > >How can I tell from the consonants when a lujvo of the form CVCCVCCV needs to >be hyphenated? The example in Chapter 4 is "mudsiclu", in which "ds' is an >impermissible cluster, but "pr" is permissible. Of course you need a hyphen when the cluster is impermissible. In addition, there is a special test called the "tosmabru" test that can require a hyphen on the FIRST cluster if it is a permissible initial. This is step 5 of the lujvo making algorithm on page 71 of the Book. You are putting in the hyphen to prevent the front CV from falling off: CV+CCVCCV being the pattern in 95%+ of the problems. By adding the y, that dropoff cannot happen. lojbab -- lojbab lojbab@lojban.org Bob LeChevalier, President, The Logical Language Group, Inc. 2904 Beau Lane, Fairfax VA 22031-1303 USA 703-385-0273 Artificial language Loglan/Lojban: http://www.lojban.org