From cowan@ccil.org Thu Jul 06 13:25:27 2000 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 23456 invoked from network); 6 Jul 2000 20:25:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m2.onelist.org with QMQP; 6 Jul 2000 20:25:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO locke.ccil.org) (192.190.237.102) by mta1 with SMTP; 6 Jul 2000 20:25:26 -0000 Received: from localhost (cowan@localhost) by locke.ccil.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA24509; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 17:01:48 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2000 17:01:48 -0400 (EDT) To: And Rosta Cc: lojban@egroups.com Subject: Re: "which?" (was: RE: [lojban] centripetality: subset vs component In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-eGroups-From: John Cowan From: John Cowan On Thu, 6 Jul 2000, And Rosta wrote: > BTW, does nonveridicality extend to the end of the sumti? That is, > in "le broda poi brode", is "brode" nonveridical? I was assuming, > perhaps incorrectly, that "le mo broda" is approximately equivalent > to "le broda poi mo", but if it is in fact instead approximately > equivalent to "le broda voi mo", then of course my suggestion is > useless. This distinction is made by having two attachment points for relative clauses: inside the descriptor (lo broda poi brode ku) and outside (lo broda ku poi brode). The former is the default, since elidable terminators are inserted only when they absolutely must be, i.e. as late as possible. Of course, this is a distinction without a difference unless the description and the relative clause introducers disagree in veridicality or some other such property. > As for "xomoi", which I see in a different thread, I don't understand > it and have not come across a decent explanation of it. But it sounds > promising. "You see here door number one, door number two, and door number three. Which [xomoi] door do you choose?" In any choice situation in which the choices are or plausibly could be numbered, "xomoi" is reasonable for "which?". -- John Cowan cowan@ccil.org "You need a change: try Canada" "You need a change: try China" --fortune cookies opened by a couple that I know