From jcowan@reutershealth.com Mon Jul 10 12:47:48 2000 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 29295 invoked from network); 10 Jul 2000 19:47:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by m3.onelist.org with QMQP; 10 Jul 2000 19:47:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.reutershealth.com) (204.243.9.36) by mta1 with SMTP; 10 Jul 2000 19:47:47 -0000 Received: from reutershealth.com (IDENT:cowan@skunk.reutershealth.com [204.243.9.153]) by mail.reutershealth.com (Pro-8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA28126; Mon, 10 Jul 2000 15:47:35 -0400 (EDT) Sender: cowan@mail.reutershealth.com Message-ID: <396A281C.B2D88190@reutershealth.com> Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 15:46:36 -0400 Organization: Reuters Health Information X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.5-15 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jorge Llambias , "lojban@onelist.com" Subject: Re: [lojban] Opposite of za'o References: <20000709170622.4627.qmail@hotmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: John Cowan Jorge Llambias wrote: > I don't see it. The event of my building a house does not cause > the event of culmination of my building a house. The process of building a house brings forth the achievement of house-is-built. For another example, the process of fighting a war brings forth victory (or defeat or a negotiated settlement); battles like the Battle of New Orleans are in the "za'o" period. (For non-Usonians, this battle was fought in 1815 between the U.S. and the U.K. after the peace treaty had been signed, because the combatants had not yet been informed. Although the U.S. gained none of its war aims, it did win this battle -- catapulting the successful general to the Presidency.) -- Schlingt dreifach einen Kreis um dies! || John Cowan Schliesst euer Aug vor heiliger Schau, || http://www.reutershealth.com Denn er genoss vom Honig-Tau, || http://www.ccil.org/~cowan Und trank die Milch vom Paradies. -- Coleridge (tr. Politzer)