From cowan@ccil.org Tue Jul 11 05:33:31 2000 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 27739 invoked from network); 11 Jul 2000 12:33:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m4.onelist.org with QMQP; 11 Jul 2000 12:33:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO locke.ccil.org) (192.190.237.102) by mta1 with SMTP; 11 Jul 2000 12:33:31 -0000 Received: from localhost (cowan@localhost) by locke.ccil.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id JAA22793; Tue, 11 Jul 2000 09:11:22 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2000 09:11:22 -0400 (EDT) To: Jorge Llambias Cc: lojban@egroups.com Subject: RE: "which?" (was: RE: [lojban] centripetality: subset vs component In-Reply-To: <20000710233221.47624.qmail@hotmail.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-eGroups-From: John Cowan From: John Cowan On Mon, 10 Jul 2000, Jorge Llambias wrote: > >A: A certain cat leaves. > >B: A certain cat of what kind leaves? > >A: A certain cat of white colour leaves. > > > >-- what's wrong with that? > > Nothing, but they are not {le} statements. Actually, I think they are. "A certain" in English is a way of making +specific -definite sumti: I know what cat is meant (+specific), but you don't (-definite). In Lojban "le bi'unai mlatu". -- John Cowan cowan@ccil.org C'est la` pourtant que se livre le sens du dire, de ce que, s'y conjuguant le nyania qui bruit des sexes en compagnie, il supplee a ce qu'entre eux, de rapport nyait pas. -- Jacques Lacan, "L'Etourdit"