From cowan@ccil.org Sun Jul 16 18:27:24 2000 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 17098 invoked from network); 17 Jul 2000 01:27:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by m2.onelist.org with QMQP; 17 Jul 2000 01:27:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO locke.ccil.org) (192.190.237.102) by mta1 with SMTP; 17 Jul 2000 01:27:23 -0000 Received: from localhost (cowan@localhost) by locke.ccil.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id WAA25480; Sun, 16 Jul 2000 22:06:53 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 16 Jul 2000 22:06:52 -0400 (EDT) To: "=?iso-8859-1?q?Alfred_W._Tueting_(T=FCting)?=" Cc: lojban@egroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] Again: le se gerku zi'o In-Reply-To: <8kt5av+dg67@eGroups.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE X-eGroups-From: John Cowan From: John Cowan On Sun, 16 Jul 2000, Alfred W. Tueting (T=FCting) wrote: > There indeed is no (at least 'potential') brabrarespa, but (see > above) scientific volumes filled with descriptions, classifications,=20 > genetics etc.: there indeed must be a Lojban word like /se > brabrarespa (zi'o???)/ to mirror our present world! Again, absence from the present time is not *nonexistence* in the relevant strong sense; Lojban existence is timeless. > I must admit that it is hard to think of dog > breeds with dogs that never existed, do not exist now and never will=20 > be in all future. Is it enough for the mentioned "potentiality" that > something only exists in human imagination? Well, as I said before, actual breeds are composed of actual dogs, and hypothetical breeds of hypothetical dogs. What seem unlikely to me are: 1)=09an actual dog breed composed of hypothetical dogs; 2)=09an actual dog breed composed of no dogs whatever, hypothetical =09or actual. --=20 John Cowan cowan@ccil.org C'est la` pourtant que se livre le sens du dire, de ce que, s'y conjuguant le nyania qui bruit des sexes en compagnie, il supplee a ce qu'entre eux, de rapport nyait pas. -- Jacques Lacan, "L'Etourdit"