From jjllambias@hotmail.com Fri Jul 28 15:50:14 2000 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 17198 invoked from network); 28 Jul 2000 22:50:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by m3.onelist.org with QMQP; 28 Jul 2000 22:50:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hotmail.com) (216.33.240.210) by mta1 with SMTP; 28 Jul 2000 22:50:14 -0000 Received: (qmail 65226 invoked by uid 0); 28 Jul 2000 22:50:14 -0000 Message-ID: <20000728225014.65225.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 200.42.153.243 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Fri, 28 Jul 2000 15:50:14 PDT X-Originating-IP: [200.42.153.243] To: lojban@egroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] force and pressure Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 15:50:14 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed From: "Jorge Llambias" la pier cusku di'e >According to the entry for "bapli", the physics term "force" should be >expressed by "danre". But that means "pressure". So would it be better to >use >"catke" for "force"? I's a possibility, but should we worry about a term for "force" when we lack terms for physics "mass", "length" and maybe "time"? What we do have is some units for these, for example {grake}, {mitre}, {snidu}. Then we can very easily talk about {le ka grake}, "gramness" instead of mass, etc. What about units like the Newton? I remember we discussed this before. One possibility was to make it up from kg.m/s2, but that gets ugly very soon. The other way is of course fu'ivla, so I would say {klanrniutoni}, {klanrpaskali}, {klanrvolti}, and so on. Not very pretty, but better than lujvo. Then a way to talk about "force" would be {le ka klanrniutoni}, or "newtonness". I think {klani} has to be the base gismu because it has precisely the place structure that we want: x1 is x2 Newtons in force. co'o mi'e xorxes ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com