From phma@oltronics.net Sat Jul 29 16:19:49 2000 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 11950 invoked from network); 29 Jul 2000 23:19:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by m1.onelist.org with QMQP; 29 Jul 2000 23:19:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.oltronics.net) (204.213.85.8) by mta1 with SMTP; 29 Jul 2000 23:19:49 -0000 Received: from neofelis (root@localhost) by mail.oltronics.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id TAA05747 for ; Sat, 29 Jul 2000 19:45:25 -0400 X-BlackMail: 207.15.133.29, neofelis, , 207.15.133.29 X-Authenticated-Timestamp: 19:45:25(EDT) on July 29, 2000 To: lojban@egroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] force and pressure Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2000 19:06:24 -0400 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.0.28] Content-Type: text/plain References: <20000728225014.65225.qmail@hotmail.com> In-Reply-To: <20000728225014.65225.qmail@hotmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <0007291919420H.00887@neofelis> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit From: Pierre Abbat >What about units like the Newton? I remember we discussed this >before. One possibility was to make it up from kg.m/s2, but that >gets ugly very soon. The other way is of course fu'ivla, so >I would say {klanrniutoni}, {klanrpaskali}, {klanrvolti}, and >so on. Not very pretty, but better than lujvo. Why do fu'ivla have to be based on a gismu? I think it makes sense when distinguishing between kulnrfarsi and bangrfarsi, or between tricrplumu and grutrplumu. But for words that mean only one thing, I don't see the point. I think we should use other parts of fu'ivla space. There is at least one dimensionness (?) that corresponds to two different quantities. The dot product of a newton and a meter is a joule of energy; the cross product is a newton-meter of torque. There are dynes and ergs. There are also dunes in ergs, but if I went there, I'd be deserting you. phma