From jjllambias@hotmail.com Sat Jul 29 17:47:02 2000 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 9082 invoked from network); 30 Jul 2000 00:47:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m1.onelist.org with QMQP; 30 Jul 2000 00:47:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hotmail.com) (216.33.241.134) by mta1 with SMTP; 30 Jul 2000 00:47:02 -0000 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sat, 29 Jul 2000 17:47:02 -0700 Received: from 200.32.22.174 by lw8fd.law8.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sun, 30 Jul 2000 GMT X-Originating-IP: [200.32.22.174] To: lojban@egroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] force and pressure Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 00:47:02 GMT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 30 Jul 2000 00:47:02.0088 (UTC) FILETIME=[ACAEF480:01BFF9BF] From: "Jorge Llambias" la pier cusku di'e >Why do fu'ivla have to be based on a gismu? They don't have to, but it is the most straightforward way of making fu'ivla that won't break down. It is also the least arbitrary way, so that different people will normally come up with the same fu'ivla independently. >I think it makes sense when >distinguishing between kulnrfarsi and bangrfarsi, or between tricrplumu and >grutrplumu. I don't like tricrplumu and grutrplumu. There is no reason at all to use an English word for them, is there? Borrowing computer terms from English may make sense, but a common fruit? Make a lujvo! >But for words that mean only one thing, I don't see the point. I >think we should use other parts of fu'ivla space. The advantage I see is consistency. And also the fact that words so created tend to be a little monstruous discourages overusing them, which I think is a Good Thing. >There is at least one dimensionness (?) that corresponds to two different >quantities. The dot product of a newton and a meter is a joule of energy; >the >cross product is a newton-meter of torque. Yes, although calling them different quantities is a little arbitrary. It's like saying that width and displacement are different quantities. They are, but so what? >There are dynes and ergs. There are also dunes in ergs, but if I went >there, >I'd be deserting you. where is ergs? co'o mi'e xorxes ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com