From Ti@fa-kuan.muc.de Sun Jul 30 09:16:56 2000 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 4628 invoked from network); 30 Jul 2000 16:16:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m3.onelist.org with QMQP; 30 Jul 2000 16:16:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO c3.egroups.com) (10.1.10.50) by mta1 with SMTP; 30 Jul 2000 16:16:55 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: Ti@fa-kuan.muc.de Received: from [10.1.10.96] by c3.egroups.com with NNFMP; 30 Jul 2000 16:16:55 -0000 Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 16:16:45 -0000 To: lojban@egroups.com Subject: Re: Grischun pronunciation was: tertirxu Message-ID: <8m1kdd+glkn@eGroups.com> In-Reply-To: <8m10bo+he48@eGroups.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Length: 1318 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 193.149.49.79 From: "=?iso-8859-1?q?Alfred_W._Tueting_(T=FCting)?=" --- In lojban@egroups.com, "Alfred W. Tueting (T=FCting)" wrote: > --- In lojban@egroups.com, Pierre Abbat wrote: > > >BTW, one of my late male cat's 'hundreds' of names was Raeto-Roman > > >"grisch-cun-stribles" (grij.kun.ctriblys): How could that be=20 > > >in Lojban? rusytertirxu.? > >=20 > > Can you explain how to pronounce Rhaeto-Roman? There are some > tonguetwisters in > > that language and I don't know how to pronounce them. >=20 > Oh, that's a bit difficult as there are a handful of different > Rhaeto-Roman dialects (they still hadn't been able/willing to gather > into=20 > one language) with different orthographical rules. I once dealt with > Grischun (Graub=FCndnerisch/Grison?) - see above. I'll have to=20 > visit the Tonguetwister's site to see the dialect respective. Pierre, the tongue twisters are in Surselva and Vallader. I've put two sound samples in Vallader (what is syntactically pretty close=20 to German!) to my audio sample page (http://www.fa -kuan.muc.de/AUSAMP.RXML), because it's hard to explain it in writing: I=20 think the different fricatives /tsch/ and /ch/ might be the "tongue-twisting" hurdles. I'm hopeful having got the correct=20 pronunciation.=20 co'o mi'e .aulun. http://www.fa-kuan.muc.de Traces of Butterflies' Dreams - ***/*=99 "Tieh Meng Hen" My Poetry