From cowan@ccil.org Mon Jul 31 02:08:31 2000 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 8451 invoked from network); 31 Jul 2000 09:08:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by m3.onelist.org with QMQP; 31 Jul 2000 09:08:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO locke.ccil.org) (192.190.237.102) by mta1 with SMTP; 31 Jul 2000 09:08:31 -0000 Received: from localhost (cowan@localhost) by locke.ccil.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id FAA26029; Mon, 31 Jul 2000 05:52:22 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 05:52:22 -0400 (EDT) To: "Bob LeChevalier (lojbab)" Cc: lojban@egroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] force and pressure In-Reply-To: <4.2.2.20000730014752.00b615f0@127.0.0.1> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-eGroups-From: John Cowan From: John Cowan On Sun, 30 Jul 2000, Bob LeChevalier (lojbab) wrote: > After all, how many people on the street will even know that 4 > pascals are a measurement and not a family? In Lojban you could tell they > weren't a family because they aren't cmene, but you would not know that a > pascal is a unit. Jim Carter gave the example (for -gua!spi) "Mahogany trees grow on the island of Borneo", where "tree" and "island" help naive or mechanical listeners who "don't know what a Borneo is". -- John Cowan cowan@ccil.org C'est la` pourtant que se livre le sens du dire, de ce que, s'y conjuguant le nyania qui bruit des sexes en compagnie, il supplee a ce qu'entre eux, de rapport nyait pas. -- Jacques Lacan, "L'Etourdit"