From jcowan@reutershealth.com Mon Jul 31 08:55:16 2000 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 16066 invoked from network); 31 Jul 2000 15:55:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by m1.onelist.org with QMQP; 31 Jul 2000 15:55:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.reutershealth.com) (204.243.9.36) by mta1 with SMTP; 31 Jul 2000 15:55:15 -0000 Received: from reutershealth.com (IDENT:cowan@skunk.reutershealth.com [204.243.9.153]) by mail.reutershealth.com (Pro-8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA29000; Mon, 31 Jul 2000 11:55:08 -0400 (EDT) Sender: cowan@mail.reutershealth.com Message-ID: <3985AB55.BF2F03FF@reutershealth.com> Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 12:37:41 -0400 Organization: Reuters Health Information X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.5-15 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Pierre Abbat , "lojban@onelist.com" Subject: Re: [lojban] Fu'ivla of class MLONGENA References: <00073110585502.00899@neofelis> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: John Cowan Pierre Abbat wrote: > > I propose a class of fu'ivla with the structure CCVC/CVCV where C/C is not an > initial consonant pair, none of the vowels is y, and the fifth letter is not r. > The type of this class is {mlongena} "eggplant". Please let me know if the > conditions are insufficient or any is unnecessary to prevent misparsing. Brivla ending in CVCV are almost certainly legal. "y" is not permitted in fu'ivla in any case, and the fifth-letter restriction prevents collision with the type-3 algorithm. So this looks good. An early version of the current type-3 fu'ivla algorithm proposed a CVCV pseudo-rafsi for each gismu, so that instead of kulnrblgaria (Bulgarian culture) we would have blgariakulu or the like. This scheme had the advantage of putting the more general term at the end, analogous to tanru order. It was rejected because making people learn a whole new set of pseudo-rafsi seemed like a Bad Thing. -- Schlingt dreifach einen Kreis um dies! || John Cowan Schliesst euer Aug vor heiliger Schau, || http://www.reutershealth.com Denn er genoss vom Honig-Tau, || http://www.ccil.org/~cowan Und trank die Milch vom Paradies. -- Coleridge (tr. Politzer)