From jjllambias@hotmail.com Thu Aug 03 06:20:56 2000 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 1252 invoked from network); 3 Aug 2000 13:20:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by m2.onelist.org with QMQP; 3 Aug 2000 13:20:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hotmail.com) (216.33.241.135) by mta1 with SMTP; 3 Aug 2000 13:20:55 -0000 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 3 Aug 2000 06:20:55 -0700 Received: from 200.49.74.2 by lw8fd.law8.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 03 Aug 2000 GMT X-Originating-IP: [200.49.74.2] To: lojban@egroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: Beyond Whorf: "things," "qualities," and the origin of nouns and adjectives Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2000 13:20:55 GMT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 Aug 2000 13:20:55.0814 (UTC) FILETIME=[A7BCCA60:01BFFD4D] From: "Jorge Llambias" la aulun cusku di'e >.i le botpi be lo xunre vanju se pu spofu {se} goes after the tense, but in this case you don't want {se}, right? Also, that means that the bottle was broken in the past (maybe by now it has been fixed). Do you mean that, or do you mean that it is now broken {ca spofu}, or that it broke in the past {pu porpi}? >.i .oi mi na ba pinxe le >selpofbo'i That is fine. But don't tell me that {le na ba se pinxe be do cu se botpi}, which would be confusing, even though you could weasel out of it by talking of potentialities. co'o mi'e xorxes ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com