From jcowan@reutershealth.com Thu Aug 03 08:06:44 2000 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 21866 invoked from network); 3 Aug 2000 15:06:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by m1.onelist.org with QMQP; 3 Aug 2000 15:06:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.reutershealth.com) (204.243.9.36) by mta1 with SMTP; 3 Aug 2000 15:06:43 -0000 Received: from reutershealth.com (IDENT:cowan@skunk.reutershealth.com [204.243.9.153]) by mail.reutershealth.com (Pro-8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA24063; Thu, 3 Aug 2000 11:06:31 -0400 (EDT) Sender: cowan@mail.reutershealth.com Message-ID: <39898A79.E63C18D3@reutershealth.com> Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2000 11:06:33 -0400 Organization: Reuters Health Information X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.5-15 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jorge Llambias , "lojban@onelist.com" Subject: Re: [lojban] Beyond Whorf: "things," "qualities," and the origin of nouns and adjectives References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: John Cowan Jorge Llambias wrote: > Yes, assuming you mean an implied {ka'e} and not {ca'a}. > By the same logic, you can also say {mi patfu} when you don't > have any children, and you can say {ta se botpi} of many things > that are not bottled. I prefer not to make such confusing claims. Yes, such claims are Gricean-confusing, not actually false. -- Schlingt dreifach einen Kreis um dies! || John Cowan Schliesst euer Aug vor heiliger Schau, || http://www.reutershealth.com Denn er genoss vom Honig-Tau, || http://www.ccil.org/~cowan Und trank die Milch vom Paradies. -- Coleridge (tr. Politzer)