From jjllambias@hotmail.com Fri Aug 04 14:29:53 2000 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 27835 invoked from network); 4 Aug 2000 21:29:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by m2.onelist.org with QMQP; 4 Aug 2000 21:29:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hotmail.com) (216.33.241.83) by mta1 with SMTP; 4 Aug 2000 21:29:50 -0000 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 4 Aug 2000 14:29:50 -0700 Received: from 200.49.74.2 by lw8fd.law8.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Fri, 04 Aug 2000 GMT X-Originating-IP: [200.49.74.2] To: lojban@egroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] Beyond Whorf: "things," "qualities," and the origin of nouns and adjectives Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2000 21:29:50 GMT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 Aug 2000 21:29:50.0835 (UTC) FILETIME=[1F2F8430:01BFFE5B] From: "Jorge Llambias" la ivAn cusku di'e >`I grew up in a small town' most likely means that it was a small >town when the speaker was growing up, whether or not it is one now >(though there is nothing wrong with clarifying `what was then' or >`what is now' as appropriate). I wonder how that works in Lojban. Which one is {mi pu banro vi lo ca cmalu tcadu}? I guess since {mi pu banro vi lo nau cmalu tcadu} is "what is now", the other must be "what was then"? I'm not confortable with the interaction between selbri tcita and sumti tenses yet. co'o mi'e xorxes ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com