From graywyvern@hotmail.com Fri Aug 25 07:11:10 2000 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 3154 invoked from network); 25 Aug 2000 14:11:09 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by m4.onelist.org with QMQP; 25 Aug 2000 14:11:09 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hotmail.com) (216.33.237.203) by mta2 with SMTP; 25 Aug 2000 14:11:08 -0000 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 25 Aug 2000 07:11:03 -0700 Received: from 209.176.48.48 by lw7fd.law7.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Fri, 25 Aug 2000 GMT X-Originating-IP: [209.176.48.48] To: lojban@egroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] le stura be la gihuste Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2000 14:11:03 GMT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 25 Aug 2000 14:11:03.0908 (UTC) FILETIME=[4DCA0240:01C00E9E] From: "michael helsem" >From: "David Twery" li'o >5271 lujvo, from backemselrerkru (hyperbola) to >zvastejbu (conference registration table). About 40 of these have >place >structures i would just like to interject that the bulk of these lujvo belong to a period in the evolution of lojban usage, in which it was thought necessary to coin a lujvo for every english word the speaker was trying to express, rather than attempting to formulate original thoughts in lojban. very many of them are bad lojban, & i see no need for this labor for the most part when equivalent tanru can be coined naturally & understood readily; in fact, going through that trouble tends to cast an aura of officialness on them & would lead to unfortunate habits of usage were they to become regarded as exact equivalents of the english words they were coined to express. there are indeed lujvo we need, but at the moment i even think a certain amount of awkwardness is preferable... in any case we need not await THE dictionary before attempting to express ourselves in lojban directly. that would be like shakespeare not daring to write until samuel johnson came along... ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com