From iad@MATH.BAS.BG Wed Aug 30 00:29:43 2000
Return-Path: <iad@math.bas.bg>
Received: (qmail 8944 invoked from network); 30 Aug 2000 07:29:42 -0000
Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m4.onelist.org with QMQP; 30 Aug 2000 07:29:42 -0000
Received: from unknown (HELO argo.bas.bg) (195.96.224.7) by mta1 with SMTP; 30 Aug 2000 07:29:00 -0000
Received: from banmatpc.math.bas.bg (root@banmatpc.math.bas.bg [195.96.243.2]) by argo.bas.bg (8.11.0/8.11.0/Debian 8.11.0-1) with ESMTP id e7U7SAw13395 for <lojban@egroups.com>; Wed, 30 Aug 2000 10:28:16 +0300
Received: from iad.math.bas.bg (iad.math.bas.bg [195.96.243.88]) by banmatpc.math.bas.bg (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id KAA25997 for <lojban@egroups.com>; Wed, 30 Aug 2000 10:28:10 +0300
Message-ID: <39ACB7D3.3DE9@math.bas.bg>
Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2000 10:29:23 +0300
Reply-To: iad@math.bas.bg
Organization: Institute for Mathematics and Computer Science
X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win95; I; 16bit)
MIME-Version: 1.0
To: The Lojban List <lojban@egroups.com>
Subject: Re: [lojban] World-historical and religious figures in Lojban
References: <c4.8646186.26d84682@aol.com> <39A8CF80.BF94A9F@math.bas.bg> <0008271724250C.14222@neofelis> <39AA0F61.66DB@math.bas.bg> <20000828155044.5928.qmail@pi.meson.org>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
From: Ivan A Derzhanski <iad@MATH.BAS.BG>

Mark E. Shoulson wrote:
> >From: Ivan A Derzhanski <iad@MATH.BAS.BG>
> >Pierre Abbat wrote:
> >> but how would you Lojbanize names like Tlaxcala?
> >
> >Perhaps {tackalad.}, since Nahuatl _tl_ is from _t_ that became
> >lateralised in certain positions? Or {.ytlackalad.}, applying
> >the tried Arabic method of handling initial consonant clusters?
> 
> *baps Ivan on the head with a rolled-up ju'i lobypli*
> 
> Watch your {la} in cmene!!

A JL is nothing; what I'm feeling like banging myself on the head with
for rising to the bait in the first place would be nothing less than a
rolled-up Woldemar Codex. I knew that there was yet another reason
for my profound aversion to cmene; thanks for reminding me what it is.

Make mine {la'o ny. Tlaxcala ny.}; I'll have nothing else.
And while we're at it, may I seize this opportunity to appeal
to the person who will launch the next logical language project
(if he is reading this now, which is likely if history is any
guide) to please try to avoid committing the egregious error
of choosing a sound sequence that is very common across nearly
all human languages (Japanese, Maori and Nootka being in a tight
minority) for a tag that can't appear inside cmene? Surely if
what is now {la} were, say, {jo'e}, the need to mutilate names
so that they won't contain it would occur much less often.

> I'm remembering something about how the name Iosa
> (with whatever accent) is unusual in Irish Gaelic;

The accent on _i_ is always acute in Irish, grave in Scottish.

--Ivan

