From alkaline@bigfoot.com Wed Aug 30 03:29:41 2000 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 12016 invoked from network); 30 Aug 2000 10:29:41 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m2.onelist.org with QMQP; 30 Aug 2000 10:29:41 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hn.egroups.com) (10.1.2.221) by mta1 with SMTP; 30 Aug 2000 10:29:41 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: alkaline@bigfoot.com Received: from [10.1.10.123] by hn.egroups.com with NNFMP; 30 Aug 2000 10:29:41 -0000 Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2000 10:29:37 -0000 To: lojban@egroups.com Subject: Re: learning lojban Message-ID: <8oinmh+t8s6@eGroups.com> In-Reply-To: <00f101c01255$af19d600$aa45fea9@voyou> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 1582 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 192.35.17.26 From: "Garrett Jones" --- In lojban@egroups.com, "David Twery" wrote: > Since English is one of the languages used to make the gismu, most of the > gismu contain two or more letters from the English word. > > A lot of times, that final vowel will be somewhere in the English word. > > blanu -- blue > > xunre -- red > > zifre -- free > > logji -- logic More than half the time that's not true, though. Those are the cases i have trouble with. Some of the more memorable examples are vacri [air], cidja [food], xrula [flower], and xekri [black]. The consonants are always easier to remember than the vowels for some reason. Is that an affect of being a native speaker of english, where the consonant sounds outnumber the vowels? > I'd also suggest that you not worry too much about the places. Once you > learn the keywords, simply using and reading Lojban will allow you to pick > that up a lot easier. This isn't to say that the place structures are not > important; it's just more important to get a "toehold" on that mountain of a > list. Yeah, i plan on learning the list before the details. However once i have the list down, i don't want to keep looking up words to find out what that one obscure place means... > Learning 360 words in less than a week is an impressive accomplishment. Even > if you cut back to 100 words per week, you should be doing well in Lojban > inside a couple months ... good luck! > > --d danke. If i keep up the pace i have now, i will learn all the gismu in a total of 20 days, in under three weeks... what's the fastest anyone's done before?