From rlpowell@csclub.uwaterloo.ca Wed Aug 30 12:43:04 2000 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 13985 invoked from network); 30 Aug 2000 19:43:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by m2.onelist.org with QMQP; 30 Aug 2000 19:43:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO calum.csclub.uwaterloo.ca) (129.97.134.11) by mta3 with SMTP; 30 Aug 2000 19:43:03 -0000 Received: from calum.csclub.uwaterloo.ca (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by calum.csclub.uwaterloo.ca (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA29379 for ; Wed, 30 Aug 2000 15:45:17 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <200008301945.PAA29379@calum.csclub.uwaterloo.ca> To: lojban@egroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: learning lojban In-Reply-To: Message from Invent Yourself of "Wed, 30 Aug 2000 15:34:10 EDT." Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2000 15:45:16 -0400 X-eGroups-From: Robin Lee Powell From: Robin Lee Powell Invent Yourself writes: >On Wed, 30 Aug 2000, Robin Lee Powell wrote: > >> >> >> "michael helsem" writes: >> > >> >>From: "Garrett Jones" >> > li'o >> >>If you think this list ^^^^^^^ >> >>would be useful, i could upload it into the files section. >> >> >> > >> >jinvi ledu'u ri pilno vlipa >> >> OK, I need some clarification here. I read that as: >> >> "I opine that [the list] has powerful uses." >> >> My problem is with 'pilno vlipa'. I believe that that is inteded to say >> something like 'powerful use', but the order is 'using type-of power' or >> 'something that is used in the way that power is used', which has >> different implications entirely and implies that the list in question is >> a type of power. > > > >I think by "ri" he's referring to the software (isn't that what Garrett >promised to upload?). Nope. See the underline above. >le vlipa is something that is powerful. What kind of power does the item >have? Use-power, as opposed to crazy-power, beauty-power, sex-power, or >maybe explosive-power. Huh. But would you agree that vlipa pilno would work just as well in this case? >Michael's writing needs to be interpreted metaphorically. Now _that_ I had understood. :) This is why I wish the lujvo list had some way of finding out who used a lujvo, especially those with few uses: trying to understand Michael's stuff makes my head hurt, and being able to skip his lujvo (I'm working on the lujvo file) would probably make my life easier. I'm only semi-serious there. -Robin -- http://www.csclub.uwaterloo.ca/~rlpowell/ BTW, I'm male, honest. Despite not getting very emotional about it, the fact that quantum entanglement doesn't allow transmission of information is probably the most profound dissapointment I've ever experienced. -- RLPowell