From pycyn@aol.com Wed Aug 30 16:36:04 2000 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 1784 invoked from network); 30 Aug 2000 23:36:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by m2.onelist.org with QMQP; 30 Aug 2000 23:36:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-d05.mx.aol.com) (205.188.157.37) by mta3 with SMTP; 30 Aug 2000 23:36:03 -0000 Received: from Pycyn@aol.com by imo-d05.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v28.15.) id a.a.1b474cc (4237) for ; Wed, 30 Aug 2000 19:35:53 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2000 19:35:52 EDT Subject: Re: [lojban] Metaphoric usage To: lojban@egroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 16-bit for Windows sub 41 From: pycyn@aol.com While maikl's offerings are often metaphoric -- as well as idiosyncratic -- to the point of marginal intelligibity, the present case is about as close to literal as a tanru can get, namely is one of the recognized regular formats. In this case it is the collapse of the second place into the modifier position with reductions: from vlipa lenu pilno to pilno vlipa. I take it to mean pretty close to "use-full" in fact. This case does not even have the usual concealed intentional context.