From alkaline@bigfoot.com Fri Sep 01 09:03:00 2000 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 31800 invoked from network); 1 Sep 2000 16:03:00 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by m4.onelist.org with QMQP; 1 Sep 2000 16:03:00 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ck.egroups.com) (10.1.2.83) by mta2 with SMTP; 1 Sep 2000 16:03:00 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: alkaline@bigfoot.com Received: from [10.1.10.97] by ck.egroups.com with NNFMP; 01 Sep 2000 16:02:57 -0000 Date: Fri, 01 Sep 2000 16:02:50 -0000 To: lojban@egroups.com Subject: Re: learning lojban [2] Message-ID: <8oojva+sshf@eGroups.com> In-Reply-To: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 1768 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 192.35.17.26 From: "Garrett Jones" > How do you know you *know* them? You can only be sure when you do a > complete randomized run (reorder all the words) and get about 95-100% on > recognition and recall. > > I also had difficulty remembering the final vowel of gismu. > > I'm also learning lojban (probably slightly ahead of you), so far I > haven't used the textbook but will print it out for later reference. > > I found the mini-lessons useful, skimmed over the mini grammar and am now > on Chapter 10 of the reference grammar. > > Is there any suggested order of reading for the Reference Grammar for > learning purposes? > > co'o mi'e la djon. I don't suppose i know them that well, but i guess right now i'm at least trying to get familiar with all of the words so i will at least when i come across some word i will remember that i memorized it at one point, and when i look it up again, it will stick in my head and i will remember it. That text book is pretty long though, isn't it? it would take quite a bit of paper to print that sucker out... I don't think i've seen the mini lessons or mini grammar yet. I'm reading through chapter 9 of the reference grammar right now. I think i've prolly forgotten already a lot of what i read, so i will have to go over it all twice or look over my notes (i right down all the stuff i think is important so i don't have to depend on the webpage for reference). As for an order of reading the reference grammar, well, it's a reference, so it's not ordered for learning i don't think... but as far as i can tell the more basic concepts are at the beginning, so sequential order would prolly work as well or better than any other... - co'o mi'e la jildicnen ps the way you signed your name ('djon') rhymes with the english word 'drone'...