From pycyn@aol.com Wed Sep 06 09:06:04 2000 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 30979 invoked from network); 6 Sep 2000 16:06:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by m1.onelist.org with QMQP; 6 Sep 2000 16:06:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-d08.mx.aol.com) (205.188.157.40) by mta3 with SMTP; 6 Sep 2000 16:06:03 -0000 Received: from Pycyn@aol.com by imo-d08.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v28.15.) id a.20.b1282be (3952) for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 12:05:58 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <20.b1282be.26e7c565@aol.com> Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2000 12:05:57 EDT Subject: Re: [lojban] How many? To: lojban@egroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 16-bit for Windows sub 41 From: pycyn@aol.com Not wanting to start that one again, I note that, once you start allowing the possibles in, then {zasti} doesn't help, since it is just another predicate, and ex hypothesi all the things we talk about exist someworld. Other than that, all the hypotheticals and what not are in tense somewhere, but tense, even of that sort, is not obligatory and the default (contradictory as that seems) is "someworld." (Actually, it is "contextually determined" and "someworld" comes up because all these critters are out of context.)